Non-Standard conjoined subject noun phrases

Mark Mandel thnidu at GMAIL.COM
Thu Feb 25 19:13:10 UTC 2010

So you have variant descendant forms of a single ballad, or phrases from one
ballad being picked up in another one. This is very common in folk song. If
I had time now I would check at the Mudcat Cafe <>.

... Well, hardly said when done, and not as helpful as I thought it might
be. Searching for
me and five more

The Digitrad Results *0.7742* - VAN DIEMANS LAND (YOUNG MEN
*0.7742* - HENRY THE POACHER<>
The Forum Results No Results in the Forum

These two lyrics are the same, except that "Henry the Poacher" has two
additional introductory verses.

m a m

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Robin Hamilton <
robin.hamilton2 at> wrote:

> > (2) To what degree does the occurence of this particular
> > form of words serve to link five texts and separate them from fifteen or
> > twenty other texts from the same roughly one hundred year period?
> I should say that, leaving generally colloquial texts such as the poaching
> ballads to one side, in the entire five hundred year stretch of
> specifically
> *cant verse, insofar as I know it, I can't call to mind any other instance
> of the "Me and five more" collocation of words.   The closest I can think
> of
> are some locutions used in songs remembered by Thomas Mount when he was
> about to be hanged in Rhode Island in 1790, and even there, I couldn't be
> entirely specific as to what's making me think there is a link.
> Which is why the phrase is (still) itching my brain.
> Robin
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