"gun play"?

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sat Jan 2 21:04:45 UTC 2010


Yes. I'm just messing with you, man. :-)  Some time in the last
century, I read the phrase, "arsing about" in some Britspeak novel -
unless I *heard* "awssing about" in some Britspeak movie. "After the
king dropped, the hand played itself," as is heard in bridgespeak.

-Wilson

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Wilson, are you giving me the horselaugh?
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> (A word I haven't heard in decades, BTW).
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> JL
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Of course it does! Else, why the euphemism?
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>> -Wilson, arsing about
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>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Jonathan Lighter
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>> > It doesn't look like "horseplay" was a euphemism for anything in 1589.
>> > The OED offers another sense from about the same time (1599, but given
>> > sequential priority for some reason),
>> > "Play in which a horse is used or takes part; theatrical horsemanship."
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>> > I've long assumed that the original reference was to the play of
>> > high-spirited colts. (It may be only my imagination, however.)
>> >
>> > Does _*arseplay_ even exist?
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>> > JL
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>> > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Robin Hamilton <
>> > robin.hamilton2 at btinternet.com> wrote:
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>> >> > @Larry:
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>> >> > So, "horseplay" has been used as a euphemism for "arseplay" since at
>> >> > least the 16th c. Amazing.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Wilson
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>> >> As in, "Stop arsing around!" which I imagine is still current, and has
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>> >> reflect UK rather than US English, since it makes no sense when couche=
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>> >> "Stop assing around."
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>> >> I am reminded, for whatever reason, of the (now Sir) David Frost's
>> Younger
>> >> Brother Joke, current in the sixties, which emerged obliquely from
>> TWTWTW.
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>> >> {The punch-line of which wasn't, but perhaps should have been, "fribbl=
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>> >> off,
>> >> Rudolph!"}
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>> >> Robin Hamilton
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-Wilson
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All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"––a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
–Mark Twain

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