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Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Wed Jan 13 13:38:02 UTC 2010


Odds that McWhorter will be on Fox or CNN this week?  Anyone? Anyone?

JL

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Geoff Nathan <geoffnathan at wayne.edu> wrote:

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> And one of our own has much better things to say:
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> http://www.tnr.com/blogs/john-mcwhorter
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> http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/01/12/2010-01-12_harry_reid_read_my_lips_theres_no_such_thing_as_negro_dialect.html
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> > Harry Reid, read my lips: There's no such thing as 'Negro dialect'
> > By Michael Meyers
> > Special to NYDailyNews.com
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> > Tuesday, January 12th 2010, 3:48 PM
> >
> > <snip>
> > there is no such thing as "Negro dialect." Like "the Negro" itself,
> > so-called "Negro dialect" is a fiction created to assign qualities and
> > habits and deficits to a "race" of people. But blacks are not a
> > "race"; we're people who happen to have darker skin than whites. We
> > are individuals who belong to the same race as do whites and
> > "Hispanics" and Asians.
> >
> > If, as individuals, we speak less than standard or perfect English,
> > then that is a personal failing and a challenge - not a racial
> > character trait. Indeed, as many American blacks were coming up and
> > out of enslavement, they learned broken English from their overseers
> > because many whites then and now (and not just in the South) don't
> > know the rules, much less the syntax and grammar, of the English
> > language.
> >
> > Dialects, accents and regional differences in language are fluid and
> > not always fluent, but are never "racial." Some immigrants have been
> > singled out for their slovenly English; others learn and speak
> > sparkling English. Those of all hues who inhabit a New York borough
> > are sometimes said to speak "Brooklyn-ese" or "Bronx" - but plenty of
> > times we speak Standard American English.
> >
> > The world is a complicated place, where individuals consistently
> > overwhelm types.
> >
> > Swirling prejudices about which groups learn and speak Standard
> > English have been passed on from generation to generation - and have
> > even been adopted by America's race industry, which proudly and
> > falsely proclaims that blacks are "different" from whites in values
> > and mannerisms and the language we speak.
> >
> > This is the notion of which Reid needed to be disabused. Yet not one
> > of our race leaders broke ranks to tell Harry Reid the plain truth
> > when he called upon them for absolution. Not one of them said to him,
> > "Harry, read my lips: There is no such thing as 'Negro dialect.' "
> > <snip>
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