Pied noir: an American connection? or maybe not...
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Mon Jan 18 16:49:07 UTC 2010
At 10:30 AM -0600 1/18/10, Jim Parish wrote:
>Laurence Horn wrote:
>> At 10:59 AM -0500 1/18/10, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>> >Is "reclamation" a very recent phenomenon? Offhand, I can't think of
>> >anything before "black" (ca1969).
>> >
>> >
>> >JL
>>
>> I think in political and religious contexts it's
>> been around for awhile, for example for some of
>> those -ers we were talking about (Quaker, Shaker)
>> and their relatives. And didn't "Whig" and
>> "Tory" start out as insults? I'm not sure this is
>> the same phenomenon, but it's close.
>
>More recent than these examples, but my understanding is that "suffragette"
>began as an insult (they preferred to be called "suffragists").
>
>Jim Parish
Was "suffragette" ever embraced by its adherents? Or is it more like
"women's libber", which was never reclaimed.
There are also the -ites for those who at least initially preferred
-ists, as in "Trotskyite". Again, I'm not sure if these were
reclaimed or just used so widely that the adherents had no choice.
(I'm excluding nonce exclamations along the lines of "Yes, I'm a(n)
____, and proud of it!")
Let's see what happens to "tea-bagger".
LH
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