Bad Girls speak

Tue Jan 26 01:22:21 UTC 2010

If it ain't in HDAS, I'm unfamiliar with that sense of _boy toy_, though
it's certainly plausible. ISTR that _boy toy_ popped into international
consciousness WRT a particular May-December couple, the lady in the case
being December.

Despite the existence of semi-insane books on the subject, Shakespeare's
bawdy puns are difficult to link to recent usage.  I mean, he was writing
poetry, correct?  But if HDAS quotes the Bard on _box_, it's good enough for
me.

Rochester, the 17th C. locus classicus of gross naughtiness, does not seem
to employ _eat_ in this way. Nobody seems to till 1916. Go figure.

The frequent synonymy of anal and vaginal terms might prove just how weird
our minds really are. Or not. They do seem to be more frequent in America,
but "tail" goes way back.  If anyone has written a serious article on the
subject, I am unaware of it.

Dutch _kut_ > Bad Girls _cooter_?  Discuss.

JL

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Didn't "boy toy" once, like a quarter-century or so ago, mean "a girl
> who is but a toy for boys"? "Easy," as was said in prehistory?
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> I notice from HDAS that Shakespeare used _box_ with the meaning
> relevant to "eat ... box." It's unclear from the cite whether one also
> spoke of "eating" someone's box, in Shakespeare's time.
>
> Everyone knows that, in certain environments, _ass_ = _pussy_. In the
> BE of '50's Saint Louis, _box_ also = _arse_. "I love you, baby / But
> I'm crazy 'bout lollipops," refrain of a mildly-popular R&B silly-song
> of the day, was parodied as "... / But I'm crazy 'bout yo' big box."
> If it became necessary to clarify, since _box_ still retained its
> historical meaning, "_mezzanine_ box" was used for "arse." This was
> only very rarely the case, since _a big box_ = "a big arse" is easily
> visible to the casual stare and a desirable asset <har! har!>, whereas
> _a box_ in its original slang meaning is not not ordinarily visible,
> nor is a *big* one desirable.
>
> In Dutch, _kut_ = "cunt," whereas _kont_ has completely shifted to
> "arse" and _aars_ has been specialized to "anus."
>
> Someone should write a thesis on the semantic shifts involved in this
> shit. <har! har!>
>
> Judging by examples in Facebook and on Google, people named Grootaers,
> wherein _groot_ = "great, large" and _aers_ is the Flemish and
> archaic-Dutch spelling of _aars_, feel no social pressure to change
> their names.
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> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Jonathan Lighter
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> > Time for an update on sociolinguistic items exposed to the cable audience
> by
> > the young ladies of The Bad Girls Club.  Few are brand-new, but the
> > "reality" element of the show, at least insofar as the dialogue is
> > concerned, shows these and similar utterances are "out there."  All the
> > speakers are women.
> >
> > "Kendra sets her sights on a sexy new boy toy."  (Not a younger man
> > regularly "dated" by an older woman, just a casual boyfriend/ sex
> partner.
> > The narrator is the speaker.)
> >
> > "I wouldn't eat anyone's box!"
> >
> > "Please let Annie grow some freakin' balls and do something about Natalie
> > bothering her."
> >
> > "You either lick the cooter or stick the cooter." (You can't be
> bisexual.)
> >
> > "You should square up with Angel. Hear his side of the story." (App.,
> > be candid or forthcoming.)
> >
> > "My coochie is all shaved."
> >
> > Sociologists: At one point they playfully try to get Kendra's new boy toy
> > to demonstrate inflatable masturbation animals brought from the sex toy
> > convention.
> >
> > Folklorists & Freudians: At Speed Dating, Natalie asks prospective
> > boyfriends, without introductory context, "Which do you think is more
> > important? The size of the boat, or the motion of the ocean?"  As she
> > explains to her mansionmates later, "If he says the size of the boat, it
> > means he has a tiny penis."
> >
> > Google Groups has the question from 1994, but a (very) cursory search
> > doesn't find any exx. of Natalie's depth-psychology analysis.  There must
> be
> > some though.
> >
> > JL
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