"Cheap date" redux
Joel S. Berson
Berson at ATT.NET
Wed Jan 27 13:35:01 UTC 2010
At 1/27/2010 12:54 AM, Wilson Gray wrote:
>That's certainly a viable interpretation, IMO, but do - or did - you
>ever decide which women to date according to the amount of money that
>you'd have to spend in order to seduce them? If that's the case,
>pimping wouldn't be hard for you! ;-)
Since I generally found it difficult to find even
one woman to date, the first wasn't a
consideration and the second wasn't a possibility.
>And wouldn't you be at least discomfited, if a woman felt that she had
>to sell herself to you as inexpensive, in order to get you to ask her
>out?
No. Doesn't one always have prospective marriage
in mind, and thus a potential responsibility to
:love, honor, and support" the woman, when one is
dating? At least that what *my* mother told me, Wilson.
Joel
:-)
>-Wilson
>
>On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > Is this like the N-word -- you're allowed to use
> > it if you are one, but if someone else applies it to you, POW!!!?
> >
> > Seriously, If I heard a woman to say she was a
> > cheap date, I would take that as a
> > self-compliment and a lure being thrown out --
> > she was telling me that my dating her would not
> > be expensive, extravagant, ruinous. But if I
> > said that to a woman, I would expect annoyance to anger.
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > At 1/26/2010 11:12 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
> >>Somewhen, a few years back, I wondered aloud what motivate a woman to
> >>define herself, of her own free will, as a "cheap date," when the
> >>phrase is an insult. The consensus reply of both men and women was
> >>that the phrase is *not* derogatory. So, why *shouldn't* a woman
> >>define herself as a "cheap date," if she so wishes?
> >>
> >>A current TV commercial has dialogue between two buddies about a date
> >>that one of them had been on. IT is approximately as follows:
> >>
> >>A, And she ordered only from the cheap menu!
> >>
> >>B. Yeah?!
> >>
> >>A. Yeah! So, I said to her, "Whoa! You're a cheap date!"
> >>
> >>B. Yeah?
> >>
> >>A. She answered, "What?!" So, thinking that she was hard of hearing,
> >>I said, "YOU'RE A CHEAP DATE!"
> >>
> >>[POW!!!]
> >>
> >>
> >>There's a clear implication in the commercial that this woman didn't
> >>appreciate being described as a "cheap date."
> >>
> >>Clearly, a TV ad is not necessarily meant to be a reflection of
> >>reality. It's relaxing, nevertheless, to know that at least one other
> >>person - whoever wrote that commercial - also feels that "cheap date"
> >>is demeaning and that my own grasp of reality is probably not much
> >>weaker than anyone else's. ;-)
> >>
> >>-Wilson
> >>
> >>All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"a strange complaint to
> >>come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> >>Mark Twain
> >>
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>-Wilson
>
>All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"a strange complaint to
>come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>Mark Twain
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