"Hanoi Jane"

Fri Jul 2 13:44:22 UTC 2010

Meme?  What exactly is that?  http://thedailymeme.com/what-is-a-meme/

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Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+ 
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> Subject: Re: "Hanoi Jane"
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> There is a newpaper hit as early as July 24, 1972. It's an AP story from
> Paris where Jane had just arrived from Hanoi, but the "Hanoi Jane" isn't
> part of the article. It's in a NC newspaper with the headline(almost
> certainly written by a local copy editor) which says ['Hanoi Jane' Returns].
> Was it already a meme in news circles, even if she hadn't gotten home yet?
> Who knows.
> 
> Sam Clements
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> From: "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET>
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> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 18:13
> Subject: "Hanoi Jane"
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> >A review of Jerry Lembcke's* _Hanoi Jane: War, Sex, and Fantasies of
> > Betrayal_ says:
> >
> > " 'Hanoi Jane,' Lembcke reports, does not appear in the
> > mainstream press until 1978. It only gained wide currency in
> > connection with protests over the filming of the romantic
> > working-class drama 'Stanley and Iris' in Waterbury, Conn., in 1988.
> > " Lembcke bases his account of the Waterbury connection on
> > interviews with local veterans, including the retired general who
> > takes credit for 'having made "Hanoi Jane" the household phrase it
> > is,' as well as local anti-war activists. "
> >
> > A quick glance in the Google Books mainstream press gives around 9
> > genuine hits in English for "Hanoi Jane" before 1978 (and about 118
> > additional raw results between 1978 and 1987 inclusive), with none before
> > 1971.
> >
> > 1971: _Three Sisters_ (Georgetown Univ.), vols. 1-2. [WorldCat
> > says this is held by 16 libraries, including Yale (but not,
> > apparently, Georgetown).] "The public gasped at her support for
> > "Hanoi Jane" (Fonda), "Radical George" (McGovern), women's lib, and
> > abortion. I was at the airport on my way to Washington when I crossed
> > the path of this fire-breathing dragon lady of the pageant ..."
> >
> > 1971: _New Guard_ (Young Americans for Freedom), Vol. 11-12. [A
> > volume 11 in 1971 is consistent with the starting date of
> > 1961. [Strangely, this only turned up when I asked for dates between
> > 1970 and 1972; it is different from a 1973 hit.] "Classified
> > Ads. Poster: 'Wanted for treason: Hanoi Jane Fonda ... .' "
> >
> > 1972: _The Review of the News_. [This too turned up only when
> > I asked for 1970 to 1972; it is different from a1977 hit.] "Hanoi
> > Jane Promotes Red Line {bullet} Paris, July 25 ..."
> >
> > 1973: Thomas Kiernan, _Jane: an Intimiate Biography of Jane Fonda_.
> > 1974: _Ramparts_, vol. 13. [Consistent with starting date of 1962.]
> > 1975: _American Opinion_, vol. 18. [Consistent with starting
> > date of 1958.]
> > 1975: Lois Karen Baldwin, _Down on Bugger Run: family group and
> > the social base of folklore_, Part 1. [A thesis, Graduate School of
> > Arts and Sciences, University of Pennsylvania, 1975; also an
> > "Internet Resource" published by ScholarlyCommons (OAIster).]
> > 1977: William Sloane Coffin, _Once to Every Man: A Memoir_.
> >
> > These are all No Preview, and thus without a page number.
> >
> > Review in Boston Globe, July 1, 2010, page G 11.
> >
> > * Author also of _The spitting image : myth, memory, and the legacy
> > of Vietnam_,
> >
> > I do not have access to newspaper archives.
> >
> > Joel
> >
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