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[Tom Zurinskas]

Dale's "why" sounds like ~waa (wah) with an offglide ~ee when "why" is said without a word after it.

He says "Dale" like ~Da'ool where ~a is as in "dad" and ~ool is as in "wool".  Seems like lots vowels get dipthongized before ~l.

Indeed, he says "he was a marine during Vietnam", but that doesn't mean he was over there.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
see truespel.com phonetic spelling


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> Listen to the way this guy from Alabama says "why".
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQdTgkY321s
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> On Jul 16, 2010, at 20:20, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
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>> I looked up "whilst" in the "MacMillan Dictionary for Children" that
>> I just bought (I'm collecting dictionaries). It does not contain
>> the word "whilst". Only "while" and that in verb form as well.
>> (Does whilst have a verb form too?)
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>> Interestingly every word that starts with "wh" is given a first
>> pronunciation of ~hw and a second of ~w (except those pronounced as
>> ~h, as in who). I never hear ~hw in USA. I don't say ~hw so that
>> may have something to do with it.
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>> Imagine "whoa" as "hwoa"
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>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
>> see truespel.com phonetic spelling
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>>> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:11:25 -0300
>>> From: dad at POKERWIZ.COM
>>> Subject: Whilst
>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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>>> A while ago, TZ and somebody - don't remember who - had a tiff
>>> about whether
>>> Americans say whilst. TZ was saying they do not. I agreed (quietly
>>> - I
>>> didn't write anything) at the time, thinking it mostly a Britism.
>>> Well,
>>> immediately thereafter I started hearing whilst all over the place on
>>> American TV shows. I thought: hmph. But then I thought: a lot of
>>> writers for
>>> US TV are Brits and Canadians as are many actors in the US. So
>>> maybe there
>>> was dialect leak going on, with American actors saying Brit/
>>> Canadian-written
>>> lines, or Brit/Canadian actors saying whilst and not knowing
>>> they're not
>>> supposed to. I was satisfied with that hypothesis until the other
>>> day I was
>>> watching CNN and the interviewee, the District Attorney of some
>>> Podunk
>>> county in Ohio, said whilst. So now I'm in a funk and don't know
>>> what to
>>> think. Maybe he is another sleeper spy who missed the ESL class on
>>> while/whilst and thus gave himself away, like when Tony Franciosa
>>> said
>>> loo-tenant instead of leff-tenant and gave himself away as not
>>> being a Brit.
>>> DAD
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