"thousand-yard stare" (UNCLASSIFIED)

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Tue Jul 27 15:06:31 UTC 2010


My WAG is reinvention. I read the story back in the '50's and I
remember nothing about it except that one phrase and I remember that
only because of prior familiarity with that unforgettable, so-called
"thousand-yard stare" facial expression. I once saw a photo of
captured German submariners. (Back During The War, there was a
sea-dwelling superhero named "SubMARiner" and the crew of a submarine
were also subMARiners. Nowadays, "submaRINer" appears to have become
the norm.) They all had the stare, though nothing in the largest
submarine is more than a few feet away.

-Wilson

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Mark Mandel <thnidu at gmail.com> wrote:
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> "thousand-parsec stare" gets about 9 rgh, all fairly recent I think. Looks
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> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> FWIW, at one time, "thousand-yard stare" was so hip that a
>> science-fiction author whose name I can no longer recall used it in
>> the modified form, "thousand-parsec stare" in a story whose title I
>> can no longer recall in an sf mag whose name I can no longer recall.
>>
>> Photos of the thousand-yard stare by David Douglas Duncan
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>> http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/collections/photography/holdings/
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>> http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0405/ddd01.html
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>> -Wilson
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>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Jonathan Lighter
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>> > The appearance - in big print - in Harper's must have helped assure the
>> > term's permamence.
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>> > JL
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>> > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC <
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>> >> > > Should the OED add "thousand-yard stare"?  Wikipedia's article of
>> >> > > that name dates it to the title of a Life Magazine painting in 194=
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>> >> > > (although that used "2,000").  Google Books gives about 57 results
>> >> > > before 1951, all snippets, and some journals and so needing
>> >> > verification.
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>> >> Wikipedia was wrong (surprise!).  Tom Lea's painting appears in the Ju=
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>> >> 11 1945 issue of Life:
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>> >>
>> http://books.google.com/books?id=3D_EkEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=3DPA61&dq=3D%22tom%20=
> lea%2
>> >> 2&as_pt=3DMAGAZINES&pg=3DPA65#v=3Donepage&q=3D%22tom%20lea%22&f=3Dfals=
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>> >> and is not titled there.   I've tried to straighten up the wiki a
>> >> little, but it would take a bigger re-write than I will do to really f=
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>> >> it.
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>> >> Legit 1944 cites:
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>> >> [no author given; interview with George E. Jones, UP war correspondent=
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>> >> "War Reporter Home to Rest,"_Oregonian_ [Portland OR] 4/6/1944 p 9 col=
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>> >> "And they have that 'thousand-yard stare' a look of utter fatigue, as =
> if
>> >> somebody had placed a film over their eyes."
>> >>
>> >> Hansford Martin, "Thousand-yard stare"  [short story] _Harper's
>> >> Magazine_ v. 189 (November 1944) p. 523-8
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-Wilson
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All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"––a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
–Mark Twain

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