odd usages in _Mister Roberts_

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jun 3 00:00:36 UTC 2010


Neither usage appears in Heggen's novel (1946) or in the stage play he
co-scripted with Joshua Logan.

JL

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:

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> Dan, the GB snippets don't turn them up in either the novel or the play,
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> that isn't conclusive. Amazon won't even give me a look
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> If no one has a copy of the novel at their fingertips, I'll check in the
> libe later this week.
> JL
>  On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > "Seventeen hundred fifty hours," rather. "1750" ("Seventeen fifty," I
> > assume) sounds like the English translation of the time as given on
> > German civilian radio. in the '60's.
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> > -Wilson
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> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
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> > > I noticed two very odd usages in the 1955 film _Mister Roberts_,
> > screenplay
> > > by Frank S. Nugent and Joshua Logan.
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> > > The writers have a Navy officer in 1945 casually referring to 5:50 p.m.
> > as
> > > "eighteen hundred minus ten" instead of "seventeen fifty."
> > >
> > > And head nurse Lieut. Girard addresses her female staff as "Men!" Of
> > course,
> > > this may just be a joke.
> > >
> > > Both the movie and the play which preceded it are based on the novel by
> > > Thomas Heggen (1918-1949).  Unlike Nugent and Logan, Heggen was a navy
> > > veteran of WWII.
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> > > When the film came out, the NYT described the play as a "cherished
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> > > JL
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