another euphemism
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Wed Jun 16 23:07:07 UTC 2010
I heard "go comando" used ca.1992 by a woman on some after-11:00p.m.
cable-TV dating show in conjunction with the phrase, "pitch a tent."
She spoke to the effect that that she preferred men who _went
commando_ because she liked knowing it when she had caused a man to
_pitch a tent_.
I didn't find anything datable WRT the latter phrase - Google only
quotes the undated UD. However, I noticed in passing that someone had
posted to the UD the Southern
-and-everywhere-else-that-black-people-live regionalism, _raise sand_,
as a slang phrase! It was used by my grandparents, the eldest of whom
was born in 1864. I'm not trying even to suggest a date for the
phrase. It just that, when I was a child, *really* old, choich-goin'
peoples - gnome sane? - allowed the phrase to fall trippingly from the
tongue.
The poster defined the phrase as "throw a hissy-fit." IME, anything
from the crying of a colicky baby to spousal abuse can be referred to
as "raising sand."
-Wilson
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Garson O'Toole
<adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Wikipedia has an entry on "go commando" that gives a citation in 1985
> in the Chicago Tribune. I checked the cite in ProQuest and it is ok.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_commando
>
> Cite: 1985 January 22, Chicago Tribune, Tempo: Marking the golden
> anniversary of a brief success by Jim Spencer, Page D1, Chicago,
> Illinois. (ProQuest Historical Newspapers)
>
> Furthermore, colored briefs are "sleazy" and going without underwear
> ("going commando," as they say on campus) is simply gross.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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>> At 4:31 PM -0400 6/16/10, Garson O'Toole wrote:
>>>1996 September 26 was the airdate of a Friends episode that included
>>>the term "go commando" according to one website.
>>
>> I remember it from Seinfeld, which would have been from the same
>> period. I don't know which was first.
>>
>> LH
>>
>>>Here is an excerpt
>>>and a link from the website:
>>>
>>>Friends Episode 3.02
>>>The One Where No One's Ready
>>>
>>>Ross: Okay, now hold on. Joey, why can't you just wear the underwear
>>>you're wearing now?
>>>Joey: Because, um, I'm not wearing any underwear now.
>>>Ross: Okay, then why do you have to wear underwear tonight?
>>>Joey: It's a rented tux, Okay. I'm not gonna go commando in another
>>>man's fatigues.
>>>
>>>Credits
>>>Written by Ira Ungerleider
>>>Directed by Gail Mancuso
>>>Peter Dennis as Sherman Whitfield
>>>Aired 09/26/96, 12/19/96, 7/3/97, 3/25/2004
>>>
>>>http://www.friends-tv.org/zz302.html
>>>
>>>The ADS archive contains a thread on this topic. Here is an excerpt
>>>from one message:
>>>
>>>Subject: BRITNEY COMMANDO!!
>>>From: Jonathan Lighter
>>>Reply-To: American Dialect Society <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 05:21:50 -0800
>>>
>>>LA-LA LAND (Dec. 2).--Britney Spears, fresh from her Las Vegas BIMBO
>>>SUMMIT! with Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton, has been photographed
>>>emerging from a limousine clearly wearing no underwear.
>>>
>>> The story, first reported by the Fox News Channel, was accompanied
>>>by the on-screen caption "BRITNEY COMMANDO!" (To "go commando" is
>>>teenspeak, documented by linguist Pamela Munro and others, meaning "to
>>>wear no underwear.")
>>>
>>> The phrase was popularized some years ago by an episode of the
>>>popular NBC series _Friends_.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Lisa Galvin <lisagal23 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> I am not familiar with the term "rocking" in that sense=2C but I think the =
>>>> first time I personally heard the phrase "going commando" was on an episode=
>>>> of the TV show Friends=2C so that would put it somewhere in the mid-to lat=
>>>> e 90s? No idea where/when it actually started=2C though.
>>>>
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>> Lisa Galvin
>>>>
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-Wilson
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