another meaning reversal
Tom Zurinskas
truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Sat Jun 26 15:02:36 UTC 2010
Tody the newscaster said of the approaching storm in the Caribbean "It could make a mess out of the disaster in the gulf" referring to the gulf oil leak. Sounds like an upgrade.
Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
see truespel.com phonetic spelling
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> A line in a movie reminded me of this discussion (i.e., of expressions like
> "could care less" and "so much of a peep"). Perhaps it was another example
> of a conscious meaning reversal, perhaps it was just a slip that made it
> past the director and the scriptwriters.
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> The actor who said it was Rob Schneider, and the movie was *Grown-Ups*(2010):
> "I don't even hardly know them."
> (The character is referring to his daughters.)
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> To my surprise, there are seven hits for that phrase in Google (unrelated to
> the movie).
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> -- Rick
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> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:
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> > At 10:28 PM -0400 5/22/10, victor steinbok wrote:
> > >Yes, thanks! I noticed it, but as soon as I went to look for a
> > >standard example, I forgot to mention it.
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> > >VS-)
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> > That could be relevant, but the first few pages of "so much of a
> > peep" have only one example of the kind below--the one Victor cites.
> > The others all involve negative polarity licensers (overt negation,
> > "without", "never", "if", "yet to", etc.). Volokh's is either a typo
> > or an outlier.
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> > LH
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> > >
> > >On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Gordon, Matthew J.
> > ><GordonMJ at missouri.edu> wrote:
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> > >> It might be important that in the example that Victor cited it's
> > >>"so much OF a peep" not "so much as a peep." Thus, it's
> > >>interpretable as "something that is very peep-like," in other words
> > >>it was only a peep and nothing louder.
> > >>
> > >> -Matt Gordon
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