he spit in his hands

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Mon Jun 28 00:24:46 UTC 2010


In Lean's collectanea, Volume 2, Part 1
By Vincent Stuckey Lean, Julia Lucy Woodward, written around 1903
one finds the following:

To Spit in your hands before commencing a fight.—P.; Ay. ; B.

A. O. Your salt and brinish tears they need not in this case;
for if I have anointed your palms with hope, spit
on your hands and take good hold.—Grange, Gold.
Aphr., H. i. r. 1577.

[This refers to Golden Aphroditis, written by John Grange in 1577. -- DanG]

Spit in your hand and to your other proofs.—The Troublesome
Raigne of King John.

Quidem vero aggravant ictus ante conatum simili modo saliva
in manu ingesta.—Plin., N. H., xxviii. 7.

[Translated as "Some persons, however, before making an effort, spit
into the hand in manner above stated, in order to make the blow more
heavy." Pliny wrote this around 77AD.]

It tightens the grip of the fist, and for the same reason the
labourer spits in his palm before grasping his tool.

Country boys and fellows (I believe all England over) when
they prepare themselves to go to cuffs [boxes], before they
strike they do spit in their hands for good luck to their
endeavours.—Ay.

I remember, when a person in a declining condition recovers
and is likely to live longer, it is a proverb to say of him
that he has spit in his hands and will hold out the other
year.—(Kent) K.

Unfortunately, I cannot understand the other references of Lean.
DanG

On 6/23/2010 1:46 PM, George Thompson wrote:
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> Do we do the language of gesture here?  I hope so.
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> [trial of Thomas Vredenburgh and John Foot, for assaulting Grant, the steward of the steam boat North America; Elias C. Dyer testifies:] Had taken out Foot and Vredenburgh to ride.  When they returned found Grant there.  Witness and Grant were talking at the door, and Foot came out, and being very drunk, spit in his hand, and made a motion to witness in play.  Grant said it was a certain sign that a man wanted to fight when he spit in his hands.  They then clinched and fell down, hurting each other considerably.  They got up and clinched again, when Vredenburgh came out and separated them.  Foot was hurt very much, as well as Grant.  [Foot guilty of A+B, Vredenburgh acquitted]
>          N-Y E Post, November 14, 1828, p. 2, cols. 4-5
>
> I don't recall this association of spitting on one's hands with getting ready to fight.
> I connect the idea of spitting on one's hands with "getting down to work" -- I suppose arising from an actual practice of spitting on one's hands when preparing to swing a pickax or wield a spade.  I suppose that back before batting gloves became an essential fashion accessory, baseball players might have spit on their hands before stepping in to the batter's box, but I don't recall that.  I've encountered the image in reference to office work, when the spitting is figurative -- probably.
>
> The OED doesn't have an entry for the expression, but it turns up in a couple of quotations:
>
> 1857 Olney (Illinois) Times 25 Dec. 1/5 He wur plum crazy fur he jist spit in his hands an leaped over the frunt uv the pulpit.  (under "plumb")
> 1945 Record (Philadelphia) 4 July 11/1 ‘Ring out the tidings, Grandpa!’ and the old gent spit on his hands, and Whammo! went the Liberty Bell. (under "whammo")
>
> The 1857 passage refers to a man ready to fight, and the 1945 passage to a man pulllng a bell-rope.
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> GAT
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> George A. Thompson
> Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern Univ. Pr., 1998, but nothing much lately.
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