"folk" with an L

Paul Johnston paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU
Mon Mar 15 04:50:18 UTC 2010


It's common in both ireland and Scotland.  i've heard it from older--
real old, like born in the late 19c.--Irish-American New Yorkers.

Yours,
Paul
On Mar 14, 2010, at 3:12 AM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:

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> My father, raised in Conn. said the word, film, as "filum" ~filum.
> He's the only person I've ever heard say it that way.
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>> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:34:13 -0500
>> From: hwgray at GMAIL.COM
>> Subject: Re: "folk" with an L
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>> My late stepfather, a St. Louisan thoughout his life, used "ellum"
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>> "fillum" for "elm" and "film." I've never heard anyone else use these
>> pronunciations in real life, though I'm familiar with them from
>> literature.
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>> I say "Sarah" as [sEra]. my brother uses [s&r@]. Both of these
>> pronunciations are common enough that I consider both to be
>> essentially standard, though of course, [sEr@] is more "standard," it
>> being my preference. I have no idea why my brother uses the "wrong"
>> pronunciation.
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>> He also says "million" as [mIlj at n], whereas I say [mILj at n].
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>> How it is that he uses these less-"standard" pronunciations I have no
>> idea. Probably just to annoy me.
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>> -Wilson
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>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:10 PM, James Harbeck wrote:
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>>>> He pronounces the "L" in "folksinger" very distinctly. I've
>>>> never heard
>>>> that before; nor, apparently, has OED.
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>>> My brother does it all the time. Not sure where he got it, because I
>>> don't do it and I never noticed my parents doing it either. Probably
>>> just a pertinacious spelling pronunciation. He grew up in Alberta in
>>> the late '60s and '70s.
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>>> James Harbeck.
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