dialect of Elena Kagan

[Tom Zurinskas]

What was missing for me was the typical NYC "r-dropping".  "New Yorker" become ~~Nue Yauku~~ (New Yawk-uh).  Missing that I would not say she was from New York City.  I assume she trained herself out of the "r-dropping".

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
see truespel.com phonetic spelling




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> At 9:21 PM -0400 5/11/10, Geoff Nathan wrote:
>>I've only done a quick listen to the link Tom posted, but she has
>>pretty much a classic, if understated, New York accent. Both the
>>/ay/ vowel and the /oh/ vowel are typical NYC. The way she says
>>'law' and 'all', as an open-o with a schwa off-glide (not raised,
>>however, so not what used to be a lower-class version), and the /ay/
>>vowel (as in 'time') with a slightly rounded nucleus (technically
>>backwards script-a).
>>
>>I tried using IPA in these messages a few turns back and it turned
>>into gibberish, so I won't bother.
>>
>>She's not an 'awe-dropper', of course, because she lives east of the
>>Mississippi (simplifying immensely...).
>>
>>Geoff
>
> And it's obviously the *correct* accent, since she's a graduate of
> Hunter College Elementary School (albeit 15 years after me, and Geoff
> Nunberg).
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>>----- "Tom Zurinskas" wrote:
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>>> From: "Tom Zurinskas"
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>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:54:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>>> Subject: dialect of Elena Kagan
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>>> Elena Kagan. I can't hear West side NYC at all. Pretty standard USA
>>> accent. Not an "awe dropper".
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>>>http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/05/11/meet-elena-kagan?utm_source=email54&utm_medium=image&utm_campaign=court
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>>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
>>> see truespel.com phonetic spelling
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