dialect of Elena Kagan

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed May 12 17:53:42 UTC 2010

Play the clip and here the speaker drop "r"s on "there" and "more".  NYC.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
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> Sender: American Dialect Society
> Poster: Laurence Horn
> Subject: Re: dialect of Elena Kagan
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> At 12:26 PM -0400 5/12/10, Benjamin Zimmer wrote:
>>On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Laurence Horn
>> wrote:
>>> If you think a majority of New Yorkers, in particular a majority of
>>> middle-class and/or college educated Upper West Side New Yorkers in
>>> the 40-60 age bracket, are non-rhotic, you have an inaccurate or at
>>> best considerably outdated view of the facts. Non-rhotic speech may
>>> be a stereotype of New Yorkers, but it's not (currently) accurate.
>>> As an anecdotal aside, my father, who grew up in Brooklyn in the
>>> first quarter of the 20th century, was non-rhotic, as were most of
>>> his (New York-based) coeval friends. I, who grew up in Manhattan in
>>> the mid 20th century, have always been rhotic, as have all of my (New
>>> York-based) coeval friends. Labov and I'm sure many others have
>>> written about the shift in rhoticity among New Yorkers since the
>>> World War II period.
>>...as alluded to at the end of this so-so Daily News article on the
>>"Queens accent"...
>>--Ben Zimmer
> Nice catch. I see what you mean about the piece, but I did like the
> reference to "the Queens English" for the variety associated with
> Fran Drescher's "Nanny" and Carroll O'Connor's Archie Bunker.
> LH
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