[Lexicog] plough mud

Tue May 25 19:21:27 UTC 2010

British data to the rescue again!  This preserves a pronunciation
characteristic of a number of areas in the North of England, notably
Yorkshire and Lancashire (and I think both contributed to the
settlement mix in SC)--more for the noun < OE ploh than the verb <OE
plogan, which is usually [plu:] or [plIu] in this area.  As in StdE,
verb forms transferred to the noun also (there's no phonological
reason for plough n. not rhyming with enough in StdE), so pluff is
not the only form in the area, but it is common there.  It's
interesting that it would occur in a phrase that might be conceivably
separated from the original sense of plough n., much as Michigan gool
(=child's game's base, and East Anglian in origin via Massachusetts
and upstate New York) isn't felt to be the same word as goal anymore,
or West Virginia yoe-tits for what I'd call black caps or black
raspberries (< Scotland/North England yowe, with American [oU]
substituted for Scots [^u] as usual in words like grow) aren't
associated with ewes.  Therefore, as in this case, the earlier,
dialectal pronunciation could be preserved.

Paul Johnston
On May 25, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Benjamin Barrett wrote:

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>> From: "Crockett" <asigwan at yahoo.com>
>> Date: May 25, 2010 7:46:55 AM HST
>> To: <lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: [Lexicog]  plough mud
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>> I checked with some friends from Charleston and here is what they =20
>> said in several emails numbered in order below:
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>> #1: From: R - All I know is that now, it is in fact pronounced =20
>> =93pluff=94 and is a terrible and beautiful smell to me at the
>> same =20=
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>> time.  Smells like the marsh. I have never heard it pronounced any
>> =20
>> other way, and both of us have family that still say many things =20
>> the =93old way.=94
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>> #2: =46rom R - The only place we have this stuff is in the
>> marsh=85=20
>> which is full of salt.  The only things we ever see growing there =20
>> are marsh grass and fiddler crabs.  Granted, there are a lot of
>> old =20=
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>> rice patties in Charleston.  Still, they don=92t grow in
>> =93pluff=94 =20=
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>> mud.  I cannot imagine plowing anything that grows in that stuff, =20
>> and it does seem very different from the dirt that is left behind =20
>> after normal plants are plowed (my grandparents were farmers).  =20
>> Another thought is, having grown up visiting a low country farm a =20
>> lot, I never heard my grandparents refer to mud there as plow or =20
>> pluff mud.  W=92s grandparents were farmers too (and W=92s family =
> lived =20
>> on the pluff mud).  He agrees that pluff mud is specific to the =20
>> marshes and is not connected to farming (at least now).  We will =20
>> call W=92s dad who is the only person we know who might possibly
>> have =20=
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>> some other take on this.  W suggests that you try and find the =20
>> German root of the word and see what you come up with.  We=92ll
>> let =20=
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>> you know if we get anything from W=92s dad.
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>> #3: =46rom R - Looked it up, and rice did, in fact, grow in pluff mud
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>> #4: =46rom R's mom - I asked W's dad and he has no clue, but the =20
>> plough concept does not work for me.  Pluff Mud is salt water.  =20
>> Marsh grass is about the only plant that grows in it.  Plowing it =20
>> makes no sense.  Below is a brief description of the rice =20
>> cultivation along coastal SC and from what you can see at places =20
>> like Middleton, there was no plowing that occurred.  Rice is the =20
>> only other thing that I am aware ever grew in pluff mud.  For =20
>> someone who has experienced getting his feet in the mud, it does =20
>> make a popping sound when the foot is pulled out.
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>> This prime, quality soil, abundant for hundreds of square miles =20
>> around Charleston, was one of the reasons that in the 1700's and =20
>> 1800's rice production became by far the city's most important =20
>> industry. The quality of the crop was unsurpassed, and several
>> well-=20=
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>> known varieties came from the area, such as one known as Carolina =20
>> Gold.
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>> The soft soil couldn't support the types of farming machinery =20
>> available at the time. But in Charleston, where slave labor was =20
>> used to work the fields, this was not a major problem. Rice had =20
>> been being cultivated in Africa for hundreds of years so most of =20
>> the slaves arriving in Charleston already had the knowledge they =20
>> needed to be efficient workers.
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>> After the Civil War rice produced in Charleston could no longer =20
>> compete on the open market due to the expensive cost of labor to =20
>> work the fields. Louisiana, however, had soil very similar to =20
>> Charlestons' but not quite as soft. Machinery could be used there =20
>> and Louisiana still produces a large cash crop of rice each year.
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>> Middleton Place Plantation in Charleston still has a preserved =20
>> section of rice field which is kept up somewhat but not on a scale
>> =20
>> large enough to be profitable. It is mainly used for education and
>> =20
>> tourism purposes.
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>> #5: =46rom R: I think my mom makes a good point here.  Also, my =20
>> mother in law says it's called pluff mud because of the sound it =20
>> makes when you walk on it.  I read somewhere else that =93pluff=94
>> is =20=
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>> the sound things make when they fall in it. Very true.  Not sure
>> if =20=
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>> this has anything to do with the name or if it is just common =20
>> thought, but that=92s the word on the street at least.
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>> Crockett
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>> From: lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com =20
>> [mailto:lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Frank
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:23 PM
>> To: lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [Lexicog] plough mud
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>> I was in Charleston, SC, last week, a friend of mine who is a =20
>> researcher and an author but not a linguist asked me to help make =20
>> some sense out of the term "plough mud," pronounced and sometimes =20
>> spelled "pluff mud." You can do a Google search if you want to see
>> =20
>> more about how the term is used. This term seems to be local to =20
>> Charleston.
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>> Plough mud is dark brown silty mud that reportedly can be used as =20
>> fertilizer. I was asked whether perhaps "plough" (plow) was =20
>> pronounced a couple hundred years ago with an /f/ sound at the
>> end, =20=
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>> rhyming with English "rough." I said that I didn't know, but I =20
>> would try to find out.
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>> What we do know is that "plough mud" and "pluff mud" refer to the =20
>> same thing, and that the latter spelling is more representative of
>> =20
>> its pronunciation.
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>> What we don't know is if this term really had anything to do with =20
>> plowing. That could be a folk etymology.
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>> Another thing I don't know is whether "plough" was ever
>> pronounced, =20=
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>> in the past, perhaps dialectally, like "pluff." It is a reasonable
>> =20
>> guess, based on analogy with "rough," but a reasonable guess isn't
>> =20
>> good enough. In fact, the little bit of etymological research I =20
>> have done has not shown that to be a pronunciation.
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>> Does anyone reading this know the answer? Or else, does anybody =20
>> know how to find out the answer?
>>
>> -- David
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