Most Notable Quotations of 2010 (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dan Goncharoff]

I thought the quote was relevant because, whatever your position on
the concept of church and state, the phrase itself is not in the
Constitution or its Amendments, and many of the very intelligent
people discussing it, including those on this list, are unaware of
that fact.

DanG

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
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> The First Amendment prohibits an established religion, a very important separation of church and state, and religious tests are also prohibited by the Constitution.  What is more open to debate is whether the Constitution envisioned a complete separation of church and state, what Jefferson called a "wall of separation."  But clearly the concept of separation of church and state is in the Constitution.  Conservatives often criticize me for my position that there is a big category of misquotations by people furthering conservative political agendas, but the fact is that there is a vast body of big distortions of Founding Fathers quotations promulgated by conservatives arguing that the United States was intended to be an explicitly Christian nation.
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>> At 10:01 AM -0500 11/22/10, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
>> >I would add to the list of quotations:
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>> >Where in the Constitution is separation of church and state?
>> >Christine O'Donnell
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>> To be fair, it's not in the Constitution proper but in the First
>> Amendment.  Perhaps Ms. O'Donnell  hadn't gotten that far, or skipped
>> the boring First to get to the good stuff in the Second.
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> To be really, really fair, "separation of church and state" isn't in the
> Constitution proper or in the First Amendment.  Both allowed some
> interaction between church and state.
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> "Separation of church and state" comes from a letter by Thomas
> Jefferson.  Not a bad rule, but it isn't in the Constitution.
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