what and what not
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Wed Nov 24 23:08:36 UTC 2010
At 6:04 PM -0500 11/24/10, Neal Whitman wrote:
>I have no problem with it whatsoever.
>
>Neal
I would have to say "...what to and what not to cover", but I
wouldn't be surprised to hear the more reduced version. This seems
like something Arnold may have written on at some point...
LH
>
>On Nov 24, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Victor Steinbok <aardvark66 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>> Poster: Victor Steinbok <aardvark66 at GMAIL.COM>
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>> My acceptability meter occasionally goes haywire, but I wanted to run it
> > by anyway...
> >
>> There are almost 2 million raw ghits for "what and what not". After the
>> first several pages, many become spurious (even some of the early ones
>> are), but that's beside the point--such a high raw count would normally
>> imply acceptability. And most of the uses that the search produces are
>> [almost] fine by me. But the original fragment that sent me there keeps
>> me scratching my head and I can't quite figure out why:
>>
>> http://goo.gl/mBttU
>>> From the TSA's blog post describing what and what not to bring through
>>> airport checkpoints: ...
>>
>> Compare that to
>>
>>> Deciding what and what not to cover.
>>
>> and
>>
>> http://goo.gl/bqfoY
>>> OpEdNews - Article: What And What Not To Say To A Marine
>>
>> But the front page lede for the latter column is
>>
>>> What we should and should not say to those in the Marines and in any
>>> other branch of the military should mix respect for their position and
>>> intentions with a challenge not to be used as hired guns.
>>
>> The body of the article does not use either phrasing. (http://goo.gl/scmea)
>>
>> Certainly, "should and should not" does not bother me in the slightest,
>> but "what and what not" leaves a bad taste in my mouth even when I find
>> it less objectionable than the first-mentioned piece. Any suggestions?
>> derisions?
>>
>> For the most part, my suspicion is that when one uses "what and what
>> not" or "what or what not" usually just "what not" would do.
>>
>> VS-)
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