hog/hawg

[Paul Johnston]

If the New Yorker is on his/her "best behavior" or from up the social scale, perhaps--that's more like a Midwestern form.  About as close to it as I get is [dO:gz]. [dU at gz] is more Fran Drescher territory.


Paul Johnston
On Oct 7, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

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> Don't you mean New-York style / dD:gz /?
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> JL
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> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Paul Johnston <paul.johnston at wmich.edu>wrote:
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>> But that'd be something like IPA [dOUgz], not New York-style [dU at gz],
>> right?
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>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Charles C Doyle wrote:
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>>> In a gesture of dialect self-awareness and pride, we University of
>> Georgia Bulldogs commonly refer to ourselves--even in writing--as the
>> "Dawgs."  (Cf. "Ole Miss.")
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>>> It tells you how to pronounce dog.
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>>> JL
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>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu
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>>>> At 12:31 PM -0400 10/7/10, Joel S. Berson wrote:
>>>>> At 10/7/2010 11:50 AM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>>>>>> Interesting.  So, Joel, you have a minimal pair between the following?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hog/hawg, n. 'motorcycle' /hOg/ as in "dog"
>>>>>> hog, n. 'mammal of fam. Suidae' or hog, v. 'bogart' /hag/ as in "frog"
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>>>>> Yes.
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>>>> Too late.  Jon has already accomplished his commission, and as far as
>>>> I can tell his work is unimprovable.
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>>>> LH
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