Marine; soldier = 'naval seaman'; his-story = 'history focused on men'; etc.
Jonathan Lighter
wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sat Oct 16 14:09:48 UTC 2010
P. 51: "Historically, the Allied Army [sic] was engaged in a battle on the
islands of Tulagi, Kuralei, New Hebrides [sic], Guadalcanal, Norfolk,
Vanicoro, Midway, and many other coral islands."
Besides the fact that there is/was no island of Kuralei, no island called
"New Hebrides," no entity called "the Allied Army," and no fighting on
Vanicoro [Michener's spelling of "Vanikoro"] or on or near near Norfolk
Island, this is a fairly accurate statement. I will leave it others to
determine whether all the islands mentioned are "coral" islands.
Literary criticism shouldn't be exempt from factual accuracy, including
obvious familiarity with background information and an accurate description
of the work being discussed. Nor do I see in the article much knowledge of
the cultures of any of the real Pacific islands Michener mentions,
so "postcolonial criticism" appears to me to be an unpromising approach in
this case.
But I'm getting far afield here. The article is well organized and quite
readable.
JL
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Dave Wilton <dave at wilton.net> wrote:
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> The 1947 date jumped out at me too, but I didn't bother to look it up. It's
> clearly wrong. I'm not sure of Michener's dates of service, but the Library
> of Congress gives the publication date as 1947. He certainly wasn't in the
> South Pacific writing it in that year. You might overlook a misuse of a
> historical term in literary criticism, but you've got to get the date of
> composition and publication right.
>
> Regarding Kurulei and Operation Alligator being fictional, I think that is
> pretty clear from the entire tenor of the article-a major theme of which is
> utility of examining fictional accounts, as opposed to historical ones, to
> gain a broader and deeper sense of history.
>
> "Colonization" has a somewhat different valence in literary criticism than
> it does in history, where it doesn't necessarily refer to the formal
> political/economic status of a colony. The Solomon Islands were a British
> colony both before and after the war, not gaining self-government until
> 1976
> and full independence in 1978. And the US did administer former Japanese
> colonies through the UN-mandated Trust Territories of the Pacific from
> war's
> end until the 1990s. And there was of course the neighboring US
> colonization
> of the Philippines and the Australian colonization of New Guinea. In this
> sense, the American occupation of the Solomons during WWII was part of a
> chain of German/British-Japanese-American-British cultural and political
> domination. The fact that the Japanese were much worse oppressors doesn't
> change the fact that the native population remained subaltern. So the
> discussion of the book in the frame of colonial/postcolonial literature is
> legitimate.
>
> I did spot another questionable usage though on p. 44, "empirical events of
> history." I'm not sure how an event can be empirical, at least not in the
> sense that the term is usually used to divide empirical and non-empirical
> disciplines. Perhaps "factual" was what was meant.
>
>
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> on men'; etc.
>
> It is quite clear from the novel that, except for a handful of clearly
> identiied Marines, the military personnel are naval.
>
> Since it isn't linguistic, I didn't bother to mention it before, but
> neither
> the editors nor the writer were aware that Michener's island of "Kuralei,"
> the objective of "Operation Alligator," which unifies the tales, is
> entirely
> fictional. The writer assumes that it's real.
>
> Of course, it may not matter, since part of the point is that, while
> "[h]istorical narratives considered to be authentic are esteemed, . . .
> fictional narratives are censored [sic] as being a concoction of the
> imagination." "Fiction," moreover, "is perhaps the most effective tool
> with which the past can be reviewed and reevaluated." "The most effective
> tool"? I'd think that historical research would be far more effective.
>
> The writer/editors should also have known that the American presence on
> Guadalcanal, Tulagi, and many of the other islands mentioned was not the
> result of American "colonizing." (Unless, as is perfectly possible, the
> word meant was "occupation.") The Japanese were already occupying
> these islands and treating the locals pretty poorly according to my
> information.
>
> Why _Negro_ is repeatedly in scare quotes I can only guess. That is indeed
> the word Michener uses - the same as most polite people of every race in
> the
> 1940s.
>
> I charitably assume that having Michener writing the book while on duty in
> the South Pacific in "1947" is simply a misprint for "1942." But that
> would
> be another blunder, since Michener didn't arrive till 1944. By 1947,
> (as copy editors used to know) the war was quite over.
>
>
>
> JL
>
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> > Looking at the article, it definitely seems some of the usages are based
> in
> > ignorance. The most striking example I see of this lack of background in
> > the
> > subject is on p. 52:
> >
> > "The role of these 'Negroes' in the fateful war as narrated by Michener
> in
> > minimal. In general, 'Negroes' are confined either to the role of
> graveyard
> > keepers, or are destined to die very early. In contrast, heroic acts of
> > white Marines and the men of the Air Force are narrated with vigor."
> >
> > Of course, blacks were almost entirely excluded from the Marines and the
> > Navy in WWII in WWII. Unlike the Army and the Army Air Forces, the Navy
> and
> > the Marine Corps did not, with some few exceptions, allow African
> Americans
> > to serve. The only blacks that would be found would be a few in service
> > positions like grave diggers or galley stewards. So of course Michener's
> > narration would reflect this. A Lit Crit academic from India is not
> likely
> > to know such things. The racial arguments in the article are probably
> still
> > valid, but they need to be framed differently. The article makes it sound
> > as
> > if Michener is the one excluding blacks and not government policy.
> >
> > I don't want to be too critical because it looks like there is some good
> > stuff in the article, but it sure could have used someone with a
> smattering
> > of background in military history on the peer review committee.
> >
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> > Subject: Re: Marine; soldier = 'naval seaman'; his-story = 'history
> focused
> > on men'; etc.
> >
> > My guess is that the misuse of _soldier_ and _Marine_ comes from the fact
> > that "sailor" implies somebody who works on a ship (few of Michener's
> > sailors do so) and who may not be in the military. A "soldier," however,
> > is
> > in the military and is stereotypically on land. A "Marine," as we have
> > noticed before, is popularly regarded as a kind of "soldier," perhaps
> > (correctly, of course) with naval associations.
> >
> > Thus Michener's characters, other than (female) Navy nurses, are
> > transmogrified into "soldiers" and "Marines."
> >
> > Of course the phrases "naval personnel" and "navy men" are available, but
> > the writer chooses not use them and the editors choose not to supply
> them.
> > Whether this setms from sheer ignorance or from some semantical dynamic
> > is impossible to judge. But the words mean in context what they mean in
> > context.
> >
> > JL
> > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Jonathan Lighter
> > <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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> > > focused on
> > > men'; etc.
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > > Naturally the source is once again recent lit crit.
> > >
> > > The academic author taught in India. I don't know if the following
> usages
> > > are typical of formal Indian English. The writer discusses in a
> > > professional
> > > journal, published at Wesleyan U., James A.Michener's _Tales of the
> South
> > > Pacific _ (1947). Having just reread the book, I can assure you that
> all
> > > major characters belong to the U.S. Navy:
> > >
> > > 2002 Madhumalati Adhikari in _History and Theory_ XLI 46: Michener's
> > > _Tales_
> > > focuses on. . . the Marines stationed on the islands of the South
> > Pacific.
> > > 52: The American officers and soldiers . . . have been forced to try to
> > > live
> > > in this war-torn area. 53: [T]he Marines in the tales....
> > >
> > > P. 52: "In Michener's 'his story,' Tony Fry becomes a hero."
> > >
> > > Also, _rape_ = 'serious distortion.'
> > >
> > > P. 44: "Plausible documents need to be created to bridge evident gaps
> [in
> > > historical records]. This is not a rape of history but a generous act
> to
> > > give credibility and continuity to it." [If "document" means what it
> > > usually
> > > means, this statement is worth pondering; but the context suggests it
> > > may instead mean 'literary works'.]
> > >
> > > Not in OED is _emplotment_ 'literary plotting; placement in a literary
> > > plot":
> > >
> > > P. 46: "The discovery and emplotment of this new truth becomes an
> > > inspiration to act and think differently."
> > >
> > > Before her retirement in 2003, Prof. Adhikari taught in the Department
> of
> > > Post-Graduate Studies and Research in English of Jabalpur University.
> She
> > > is
> > > the author of nearly forty professional articles.
> > >
> > > JL
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