gripe

Margaret Lee mlee303 at YAHOO.COM
Tue Oct 19 09:29:37 UTC 2010


I've heard older people say, "My stomach is griping," to refer to an upset stomach or stomach ache.
 
--Margaret Lee 


--- On Tue, 10/19/10, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:


From: Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: gripe
To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 1:35 AM


To me "gripe" is the noun and "grouse" is the verb.
"What's your gripe?"
"What are you grousing about?"

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+ 
see truespel.com phonetic spelling


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> Nope.
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> JL
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> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Paul Johnston <paul.johnston at wmich.edu>wrote:
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> > There's also "gi(v)es me the grue" (Makes me sick) and "gi(v)es me the
> > boak"--the last one, historically bowk (and still that in Northern England)
> > is usually a verb, to vomit. "grue", I think, is the same word as the
> > beginning of "gruesome". Don't know if either of these words made it over
> > here to the US.
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> > Paul Johnston
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> > On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Robin Hamilton wrote:
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> > >> Note: common British _pissed_ 'drunk' is poorly attested in the U.S.
> > >> before
> > >> ca1980 and is still infrequent. British _piss off_ 'go away' is
> > likewise
> > >> recent and infrequent here. I suspect that what currency they each have
> > >> comes significantly from exposure to British rock culture.
> > >>
> > >> JL
> > >
> > > "Pissed" (drunk) and "pissed off" (annoyed, as in "I'm pissed off," "that
> > > really pisses me off") along with "piss off!" (go away) coexist in
> > current
> > > British English. Dunno to what degree some of these locutions reflect
> > > American usage.
> > >
> > > But as for "gripe", there's the possibly analogous British expression,
> > "that
> > > gives me the gip [sic, pronounced <djip>]", literally, causes a stabbing
> > > pain in my intestine but more usually found in the metaphorical form,
> > > "annoys me", "gets right up my nose".
> > >
> > > Much to my surprise, "gives me the gip" seems to be sparsely attested on
> > any
> > > of the three googles, whether general, news, or books. Odd that, but --
> > > thought the phrase was common as dirt.
> > >
> > > (Probably totally unconnected, and possibly an artefact of the
> > translation
> > > process, but in 1528 Johann Faust was apparently told by the good burgers
> > of
> > > Ingolstadt to piss off out of town. The translation reads, "told to
> > spend
> > > his penny elsewhere".)
> > >
> > > Robin
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