Still More Bad Girl Talk

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Wed Oct 20 16:35:08 UTC 2010


On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Jonathan Lighter
<wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I used to watch Jerry's show quite a bit for its insights into the _vox et
> mens populi_. Â Got a number of excellent cites for HDAS.
>
> I haven't watched in several years. Everybody I know but me believes the
> guests are actors and fakes.
>
> Everybody, that is, but my forensic psychologist buddy. Based on his
> clinical experience, he's sure that almost all of 'em are on the level.
>
> JL
>

Heard on Jerry Springer:

Twenty-ish, Latino-Afro-American woman to her younger sister:

"Why you always hatin' on *me*, _bro [brou]_?!"

Twenty-ish, etc. in reply:

" 'Cause, _man_, you been messin' wit' me since we was kids!"

--
-Wilson
–––
All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"––a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
–Mark Twain




> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Jonathan Lighter
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>> > And more. Unfortunately there may be only one more episode this season.
>> >
>> > "My gaydar is up, and it's never wrong, and _you're_ a lesbian!" =C2 (S=
> aid
>> by a
>> > lesbian.)
>> >
>> > "The realest girls in this house are me and Erica." =C2 (Extremely comm=
> on
>> for
>> > decades, but hard to place in the OED schema. Cf. 11a =C2 "Sincere,
>> > straightforward, honest. Obs." but with nothing since 1705. =C2 My def.=
> ,
>> for
>> > what it's worth, might be "(Of persons) free of pretension or affectati=
> on
>> > and candidly sincere in social relationships." =C2 That's very close to=
> Â 11c
>> > "Free from nonsense, affectation, or pretence; genuine. Also more
>> generally:
>> > aware of, or in touch with, real life; down-to-earth," but I sense a
>> > difference, if only because the word - again as applied to persons - ha=
> s
>> > been so common since the '60s. =C2 However, if you ask "So what?" =C2 I=
> 'm not
>> sure
>> > I have a good comeback.)
>> >
>> > "We're obviously the top dogs. Don't breathe my air. Don't be anywhere
>> near
>> > me." =C2 (Many thousands of RGs for "Don't breathe my air!" perhaps no
>> earlier
>> > than 2005.)
>> >
>> > "Christina's stupid ass was just swingin' at Leah's balls!" ("Ass" and
>> > "balls" are merely emphatic forms; see HDAS. Christina tried repeatedly
>> to
>> > strike Leah. Said by lesbian.)
>> >
>> > "I have a *huge* set of balls." (A store of self-assurance. Said by
>> > lesbian.)
>> >
>> > "I'm excited, dog!" (Female to female; HDAS stupidly restricts this use
>> of
>> > "dog" to masculine address.)
>> >
>> > When the Bad Girls aren't going out to night clubs to get laid, or, on
>> > occasion, laying each other, they worry a good deal about who's "weak"
>> (see
>> > last installment) and who's "mentally strong." =C2 Each seems to think
>> she's
>> > "mentally strong," but the others usually think she's "weak." The
>> > "strong" torment and try to drive out the "weak." It usually works. In
>> > general outline, the show is probably as scripted as any WWE match, but=
> Â I
>> > like to think individual affect and presentations of self are genuine.
>> >
>> > JL
>> >
>>
>> Jon, you're only one step removed - Jersey Shore - From The Jerry Springe=
> r
>> Show.
>>
>> A word to the wise.
>>
>> In my case, it was the now-defunct Jenny Jones Show that was my first
>> bite of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
>> --
>> -Wilson
>> =E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93
>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"=E2=80=93=E2=80=93a strange=
> Â complaint to
>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>> =E2=80=93Mark Twain
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