"A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle"
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Fri Sep 3 15:28:05 UTC 2010
At 11:11 AM -0400 9/3/10, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
>When they can ride bicycles.
>
>Jesse
Hey, give 'em a brake!
Actually, this discussion is unaccountably making me thirsty...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTT2-TNuegM&feature=related
LH
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>On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 03:04:30PM +0000, Charles C Doyle wrote:
>> But at what moment would evolving fish stop being fish?!
>>
>> --Charlie
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>> ________________________________________
>> From: American Dialect Society [ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] on behalf
>>of Jesse Sheidlower [jester at PANIX.COM]
>> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:42 AM
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>> On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 09:37:51AM -0400, Shapiro, Fred wrote:
>> >
>> > One thing that has struck me about "a woman without a man is
>> > like a fish without a bicycle" or the earlier "a man without
>> > God is like a fish without a bicycle" since I first heard
>> > them in the 1970s is that they both seem a little flawed as
>> > parodies. The idea of the second one, for example, is that a
>> > man doesn't need God. But "a fish without a bicycle" could
>> > also be interpreted that the fish is not advanced enough to
>> > appreciate a bicycle, so that the fish is at fault,
>> > suggesting in the parodic context that there is something
>> > deficient about the man rather than that God is useless.
>>
>> I don't have that reading at all.
>>
>> There is no way a fish, at any stage of advancement, can use a
>> bicycle, which to me is the whole point of this. Even the
>> greatest, smartest, most agile fish is still a fish living
>> underwater, where a bicycle is useless.
>>
>> Even if you want to hypothesize a fish who develops legs,
>> walks out of the water, and becomes human, well, then it's no
>> longer a fish.
>>
>> Jesse Sheidlower
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