Bert Kelly's Jaz Band (UNCLASSIFIED)

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Wed Sep 15 15:19:28 UTC 2010


They might have adopted it for being so new and trendy and connected with
excitement. In other words, swell.

JL

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC <
Bill.Mullins at us.army.mil> wrote:

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> > I don't think of vaudeville jazz musicians of 1915-16 (like the ODJB)
> as
> > being especially "cool" or as thinking of themselves in that way.
> They were
> > more like musical comedians.
> >
> > Bert Kelly's style of "jazz" was evidently more mellow, but it's
> unclear to
> > me just how "jazzy" it was.  Remember that some of the N.O. musicians
> who
> > played what we now think of as "jazz" seem to have kept calling it
> "ragtime"
> > for years.
> >
> > The matching of the word with musical styles then and later is not
> very
> > straightforward.
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> > JL
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> I don't kid myself that Bert Kelly wore a soul patch and black
> turtlenecks and smoked wacky terbackky.  But the idea that any group
> would pick up "jazz" as a slang term from a newspaper article seems
> unlikely, particularly if there is a potential alternative explanation
> (first-hand contact with those west-coast hipsters who were using the
> word).
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