"sucrye of strabyrs", 1683
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Mon Sep 27 20:00:08 UTC 2010
FWIW, in and around the greater Boston area - you may not notice this,
because you're hyperaccustomed - to coin a word - to it, *many* people
pronounce _-berry -bury_ as unstressed [bri]. Hence, reading
_strabyrs_ as an attempt by a semi-literate woman to write
['strO,briz] or some such seems to me a reasonable WAG. I'd also buy
_sucrye_ as an attempt at a pronunciation-spelling of a
spelling-pronunciation [sukri/Sukri], though I have no reason to
believe that any such pronunciation ever existed. WTF, this is just
another WAG. But...
Youneverknow.
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-Wilson
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
> I have the following sentence in a letter from a
> wife to her husband about to sail out of Marblehead, Mass., in 1683:
>
> "I sent you a bucket of the bust sucrye of
> strabyrs ... I beg your exceptance of my love thear in.â
>
> "Strabyrs" seems obviously
> "strawberries" Â "Sucrye" is surely related
> somehow to "sucre", but that word is not in the OED with the meaning "sugar".
>
> I would be interested in the opinions of the
> distinguished members of this list about the following hypothesis:
>
> 1) Â Being a transcription from handwriting of
> 1683, there may be inaccuracies due to fading,
> interpretation, and omission of abbreviation marks.
>
> 2) Â There is in the MS an abbreviation mark
> associated with both the R of "sucrye" and the B of "strabyrs" that means -ER.
>
> 3) Â The Y in "sucrye" was written instead of I for the long E sound.
>
> 4) Â The YR in "strabyrs" was reversed from RY,
> whether by a slip of the pen or some other error.
>
> 5) Â This Y was written instead of IE for the long E sound.
>
> 6) Â The semi-silent W in "strawberries" was omitted.
>
> Thus the following derivations:
>
> sucrye <-- sucr[er][i]e <-- sucrerie
> strabyrs <-- strab[er][ry]s  <-- stra[w]berr[i]s  <-- strawberries
>
> ("Sucrerie" perhaps does not appear in English
> either. Â I do not read French, but: Â Although
> "sucrerie" (Fr.) has a different meaning today, a
> correspondent translates it as "sweet" and cites a 17th-century dictionary:
>
>>Maybe "sucrerie of strawberries" (sweet of strawberry, strawberry sweet)
>>
>>Dictionnaire de Richelet (1680) :
>>"Sucreries : toutes choses sucrées. Patisserie
>>composée de sucre et choses douces."
>
> All ayes and nays accepted.
> Joel
>
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