"O.K." in Green's Dictionary of Slang
Jonathan Lighter
wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Wed Apr 6 22:07:21 UTC 2011
Just what are these citations, Fred?
JL
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
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> I have had my first look at Green's Dictionary of Slang, and it appears to
> be excellent. Green seems to have monitored the ADS-L list serv, and to
> have picked up most of the antedatings posted here. I haven't yet
> ascertained the extent to which he used online searching to find first uses.
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> I am very interested to see that, under _O.K._, he has two citations
> earlier than the standard 1839 first use discovered by Allen Walker Read.
> One is a usage of _O ki!_ dated 1816, and one is a usage of "O K---" from
> 1823. I am curious what our slang authorities such as Jon Lighter and Jesse
> Sheidlower think of these. Are they new discoveries? Should they be
> accepted as the earliest uses of _O.K._ without even square brackets, as
> Green seems to accept them? If they are accepted, do they affect the
> etymology? (Green agrees with Read that "orl korrect" is the derivation.)
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> Fred Shapiro
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