The manner in which it was arrived

[Laurence Horn]

On Aug 2, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

> I've noticed this phenomenon before, though only once or twice. Both times,
> however, were on NPR, and quite recently at that.  I believe the verbs were
> different.
>
> My suspicion is that people (or is it one NPR reporter?) are avoiding ending
> a sentence with a "preposition" by the simple expedient of dropping the
> "preposition."
>
> Or is that too utterly absurd?
>
>

Well, let's say it's a claim that I'd have some credence.

LH

> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>> Aren't there similar dropped prepositions in British speech which
>> Americans would (usually) not drop?
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>> Joel
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>> At 8/2/2011 10:20 AM, Neal Whitman wrote:
>>> On NPR this morning, the interviewer was asking about the
>>> debt-ceiling deal, and asking about the significance of "the manner
>>> in which it was arrived".
>>>
>>> The dropped/suppressed "at" is interesting. It's not a case of
>>> prepositional cannibalism (e.g. "calls will be answererd in the
>>> order that they are received [in]"), first of all because the
>>> prepositions are different, and second because the suppressed
>>> preposition can't be pied-piped (being a passive like "this bed
>>> hasn't been slept in"). My WAG is that the pied-piped "in which" at
>>> the beginning of the relative clause was enough to make *any*
>>> stranded preposition at the end sound bad to this speaker.
>>>
>>> Neal Whitman
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