narrative; graphic

[Dan Goncharoff]

I think you are overstating the cynicism in its current usage. I was
watching TV yesterday, and heard it used on the program "Necessary
Roughness" to mean something close to 'my story', as something one
will tell others about an incident.

DanG



On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Jonathan Lighter
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> And nobody says, "That's my narrative, and I'm sticking to it!"
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> Yet. But it wouldn't be funny if they did, because it would be an obvious
> admission of craft, unlike the potentially ambiguous "story."  Any guilty
> moron might say, "That's my story...," but only an
> unapologetic political operator with an advanced degree would say, "That's
> my narrative...."
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>> As when PR specialists or damage-control experts or criminal lawyers and
>> their clients meet to "decide on a narrative."
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>> --Charlie
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>> Garson, my feeling is that that's a transitional case. In other words, in
>> 1994 no one would have noticed it. That "great narrative" I take to mean
>> the
>> "grand story," even if biased.  And it refers chiefly to the past.
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>> In current usage, "their narrative" or "the narrative" usually refers to
>> some cynical, partisan version of events, including events current and
>> hoped-for. It's more like, "the half-truths they're feeding the suckers."
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>> JL
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>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Garson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com
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>> > Jonathan Lighter wrote
>> > > Tea Party theorist Dana Loesch on CNN today:
>> > >
>> > > "There are also three credit agencies that have already downgraded our
>> > > credit rating. But you never hear about it because it's not part of the
>> > > narrative. [The downgrades were] based on [Obama's] big spending."
>> >
>> > Here is a similar example, in my opinion, that uses the phrase "not
>> > part of the great narrative" in 1994.
>> >
>> > New York Times
>> > CHILDREN'S BOOKS; The New History: Showing Children the Dark Side
>> > By Martha Saxton
>> > Published: November 13, 1994
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>> > http://goo.gl/4PahY
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>> http://www.nytimes.com/1994/11/13/books/children-s-books-the-new-history-showing-children-the-dark-side.html
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>> > As long as women and blacks, American Indians, Asian-Americans and
>> > others were not part of history, then what white men did to them was
>> > not part of the great narrative of the nation. Now that all of our
>> > pasts figure in our history, however, tragedy is never too distant and
>> > celebration must share its place with reconciliation in the stories we
>> > teach.
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