We're all Keynesians now -- ("Ich bin ein Berliner")

[Alice Faber]

On 12/1/11 8:10 AM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
> Neiither of the first two links contradict the claim that JFK said "I
> am a jelly doughnut".
>
> The first states that the audience understood what he meant.
>
> The second states that it would have sounded silly to say it correctly
> because of JFK's accent, so saying it incorrectly was preferred.
>
> The third link seems broken.


TAKFAC is no more as a site. If it matters, I can ask the former
maintainer if the archive has been ported anywhere else. Meanwhile, see
also:

http://www.snopes.com/language/misxlate/berliner.asp
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>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Ben Zimmer
> <bgzimmer at babel.ling.upenn.edu>  wrote:
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>> For debunkings, see:
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>> http://www.watzmann.net/scg/faq-25.html
>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/cs/historical/a/jfk_berliner.htm
>> http://tafkac.org/language/kennedy_berliner_quote.html
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>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
>>>
>>> Please do. My 13 years in Germany lead me to the jelly doughnut interpretation.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I assume this is a joke.  If not, I'll dig out Reinhold Aman's article in which he (in his inimitable Reinhold Aman style)
>>>> rebuts the jelly-doughnut-myth.
>>>>
>>>> Message from James A. Landau (JJJRLandau at netscape.com), Wed 11/30/2011 9:22 AM:
>>>>
>>>> And who can forget President Kennedy's immortal line in a speech he gave in West Berlin:
>>>>
>>>> "I am a jelly doughnut"
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