"hawk" v.3 - don't allow hock for hawk.

[Tom Zurinskas]

There is a trend in US to swap out all "awe" sounds for "ah", thus eliminating one of the phonemes from the US foenubet (set of sounds).  This a stupid stupid stupid trend.  I recently heard a person talk about "Don Smith".  Then they said "she".  So is it a female named "Don" or a mispronunciation of Dawn"?

This dialect change is virulent.  It's only progressing because it's not being corrected in schools.  Even marriam-webster at m-w.com mispronounces the word "awe" as "ah", also awesome is "ah"some.  But "law" is OK as spoken by a different speaker.  The phonetic spelling for these is "awe" (an o with a dot over it).

m-w.com says these words rhyme with "awe":  aw, blaw, braw, ca, caw, chaw, claw, craw, daw, draw, flaw, gnaw, haw, jaw, la, law, maw, pa, paw, pshaw, Ra, rah, raw, saw, shah, shaw, slaw, spa, squaw, straw, tau, taw, thaw, yaw

I do not think these word have "awe" -  ca?, la, pa Ra, rah, shah, and spa

Do not allow "hock" to be an allowable pronunciation of hawk.  I saw someone spell this catchphrase as "hock his wares".  They spelled it as an awe dropper would say it.  The phrase is "hawk his wares".  Meaning "sell" not "hock".

Awe-dropping truly diminishes the English language.  How can we prevail on grade school teachers to stop it.

Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk






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> > I can't remember how the subject came up, but a colleague and I, while drinking coffee this morning, had a small argument about the verb "hawk" in the sense of 'clear the throat of phlegm'. Â He, speaking a dialect that lacks the "open o," insisted that the word is spelled "hock." Â Of course, I won the argument. Â But I am thinking that the OED needs to enter "hock" as a variant spelling.
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> > Searching the currently-common phrase "hawk a loogie," I discover 256,000 raw Google hits with the "hock" spelling, only 110,000 with "hawk." Â I informally questioned a class with comparable results; a majority favored the spelling "hock," with an unexpected handful proposing "hack" ("hack a loogie" garners 11,000 GH's), perhaps folk-etymologically influenced by the coughing sense of "hack," which the OED regards as a special use of "hack" in the general sense of 'chop' (v.1.14). Â Of course, a hacking cough is dry, unlike the raising of a loogie.
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> "blow a _hawker_" > "blow a hacker"
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> as
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> "hawk a loogie" > "hack a loogie"
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> ?
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> Possibly.
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> http://warcraft-source.com/board/index.php?topic=13559.0
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