Correction of "Caesarean Section" in OED?

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Thu Feb 3 04:54:10 UTC 2011


Cf. also:

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Caeso_(praenomen)

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-Wilson
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
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> Perhaps Jesse can pass this information from the alt.usage.english FAQ on to the OED:
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> "The OED erroneously states that Julius Caesar was born by Caesarean section. Â Merriam-Webster Editorial Department (on its AOL message board, in response to a query from me) writes:
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> Â  "The name 'Caesar' is a cognomen, a nickname given to one member of a Roman clan and borne by his descendants as a kind of surname. Â No one knows who the original Caesar was, but his descendants within his clan, the Julii, continued to use his cognomen and formed a major branch of the clan.
> Â  "According to a legend related by the Roman naturalist Pliny, the first Caesar was so called because he was cut from the womb of his mother (_a caeso matris utero_), _Caesar_ supposedly being a derivative of the verb _caedere_ 'to cut'. Â This etymology is dubious, but the name 'Caesar' has continued to be associated with surgery to remove a child that cannot be delivered naturally.
> Â  "The OED gives evidence for the belief that Julius Caesar, the most famous bearer of the cognomen, was delivered this way that dates from 1540. Â There is no authority for this notion in ancient sources. Â Moreover, Julius Caesar's mother lived long after his birth -- unlikely if she had undergone such an operation, which few women would have survived in those days. Â In any case, the earliest record we have for the term 'cesarean section' used in English dates from 1615. Â You can easily see from these dates why we say that the term came from the belief, and not, to throw in a little more Latin, vice versa."
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> Fred Shapiro
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