Bring vs. Take

[Laurence Horn]

At 4:12 PM -0500 2/11/11, Ronald Butters wrote:
>I am sure that Larry doesn't really say "this here." Such a speaker
>is more likely to be from the South and would in fact say, ""I gotta
>CARRY this here Chevy to the shop"!

I did say I'm eclectic.  I didn't use to say "this here" but anymore
I might can do.

LH

>
>On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:14 PM, David A. Daniel wrote:
>
>>  At 5:48 PM -0200 2/11/11, David A. Daniel wrote:
>>>  This is typical of New York and extended environs. Ex: other day, during an
>>>  episode of TAAHM, my daughter said "I wonder where Chuck Lorre is from". I
>>>  told her, "Gotta be New York because he always has Charlie and the others
>>>  saying bring instead of take." Sure enough, he's from Long Guyland. Anyway,
>>>  the anecdotals are legion and I've never seen it fail. Family and friends
>>  in
>>>  places like Chicago, Houston, San Francisco and L.A. don't get it wrong (I
>>>  listen for this sort of thing), even those who tend to make other mistakes
>>>  of the "should of went" sort. Hint to George: If you can't say the word
>>>  "here" in the sentence, as in "bring it here" you should probably be using
>>>  "take". For example, Charlie, at home, and being from California, would
>>>  never say to Allan, "I have to bring my Mercedes to the shop." (But that is
>>>  exactly what a New Yorker would say.) However, the mechanic on the phone at
>>>  the shop would say, "You have to bring your Mercedes [here] to the shop,"
>>>  which we know is correct because "here" fits into the sentence.
>>>  DAD
>>
>>>  How about us eclectic folks who can say "I gotta bring this here
>>>  Chevy to the shop"?  (If you have a Mercedes, you can't use "here";
>>>  register clash.)
>>
>>  LH
>>
>>  Ya got me there, pard. Thanks for taking it to my attention.
>>  DAD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
>>>  George Thompson
>>>  Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 3:11 PM
>>>  To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>>  Subject: Bring vs. Take
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Wilson:
>>>  "(One my wife's pet peeves is the loss of the distinction between
>>>  _bring_ and _take_.)"
>>>
>>>  Is this a Pennsylvania thing?
>>>  One of the many things my defunct mother-in-law found objectionable in me
>>>  was my inability to use" bring" and "take" properly.  Many a time did she
>>>  explain to me that one would always bring something to a place and then
>>  take
>>>  it back -- unless one took something to a place and then brought it back --
>>>  it was one or the other -- I could never keep it straight -- so I would
>>>  alternate between the two, figuring that that would make her happy half of
>>>  the time.
>>>  Not how she worked, however -- I succeeded in making her unhappy half of
>>  the
>>>  time.
>>>
>>>  She was from western Pennsylvania, a prescriptivist high-school English
>>>  teacher.
>>>
>>>  Fondly remembered, of course.
>>>
>>>  GAT
>>>
>>>  George A. Thompson
>>>  Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern
>>  Univ.
>>>  Pr., 1998, but nothing much lately.
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