from "blood libel" to "pogrom"
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Sat Jan 15 05:41:14 UTC 2011
At 11:42 PM -0500 1/14/11, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>Now, now. There you go again! Was the "war" on poverty really a war? Of
>course not! When America's young people say the latest musical bebop number
>or something is "killer!" do they mean it really kills? No again!
>
>So obviously any mean criticism of a political position is just as much a
>"blood libel" or a "pogrom" or "genocide" (good one!) as anything else.
i.e. "A pundit's reach must exceed his (or her) grasp, or what's a metaphor?"?
LH
>
>As St. Humpty might have said to Alice: "Prove me wrong, O ye
>prescriptivists!"
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>JL
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>On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:
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>> Subject: Re: from "blood libel" to "pogrom"
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>> At 9:51 PM -0500 1/14/11, Wilson Gray wrote:
>> >On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Victor Steinbok
>> ><aardvark66 at gmail.com> quoted:
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>> >> pogrom
>> >
>> >Clearly, this person has not the least idea of what a "pogrom" is - or
>> >should that be, ... of what is a "pogrom"?. Well, that's not very
>> >surprising, given that the one-volume edition of the Bol'shoi
>> >russko-angliiskii slovar' / Comprehensive Russian-English Dictionary
>> >gives the the meaning of _pogrom_ as "pogrom." I.e., there is really
>> >no way of translating the horror contained in those two syllables into
>> >English.
>> >
>> >Of course, from now on, every time that some right-winger has his
>> >feelings hurt, it'll be described as the consequence of a "pogrom."
>> >
>> >It's almost enough to make you appreciate why The One True Faith
>> >labored to keep the Bible out of the hands of the polloi for a
>> >millennium and a half. That is to say, a person really ought to have
>> >some idea of what a "pogrom" is before using the word to describe a
>> >triviality. The writer would, no doubt, use "beheading" to describe a
>> >cutting remark. :-(
>> >
>> If GWB and Obama can variously be seen as the new Hitler (by
>> different seers, to be sure), then this isn't too surprising, given
>> the usual semantic bleaching effects, although it is discouraging.
>> Who was it who used to complain about "defining deviancy down"? So
>> now it's "blood libel" and "pogrom" being defined down. :-( indeed.
>>
>> LH
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