consect

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jul 7 16:55:16 UTC 2011


Has anyone ever seen "concur the sentences"?

A quick Google finds forms with the consec/concur choice.

DanG


On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:

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> I think it likely that what actually was uttered was "consec the
> sentences."
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> The { t } I indicated may be a phantom. The word makes more sense
> etymologically without it.
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> If that could matter to anybody.
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> JL
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> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Baker, John <JMB at stradley.com> wrote:
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> >         But as a verb, as Jon heard?
> >
> >        I searched for "consect," which is why I didn't spot the
> > "consec" instances.
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> > John Baker
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> > "Consec" seems to be a fairly common abbreviation for "consecutive", at
> > least in law-related websites.
> > DanG
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Baker, John <JMB at stradley.com> wrote:
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> > >        It may be a term that's used by the criminal defense bar in
> > > Florida, or in the local area where the trial was held.  I'm not aware
> > > of any examples of its use in legal writing, although an informal term
> > > like this is probably used orally rather than in writing anyway.  It's
> > > even possible (though not particularly likely) that it really was
> > > invented by the defense attorney, or by someone with whom she has come
> > > in contact.
> > >
> > >        The use was apparently pretty transparent (after all, you knew
> > > immediately what it meant), so it's not surprising that the judge
> > didn't
> > > remark on it.  It would be different if the term actually had been
> > used
> > > in a formal motion; then the judge would be more likely to remark with
> > > disdain that the defendant's motion didn't even have an established
> > > legal meaning.
> > >
> > >        Now that it's been used on television in a high-profile case,
> > > the term is more likely to take off.  If it does, we'll know that
> > Jon's
> > > diligence memorialized its initial popularization.
> > >
> > >
> > > John Baker
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Of Jonathan Lighter
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:54 AM
> > > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: consect
> > >
> > > John, it may have been one of the younger female defense attorneys who
> > > actually used the word. By the time I finished noting it, the precise
> > > speaker had fled my mind.
> > >
> > > The judge didn't start pounding his gavel shouting, "What the hell are
> > > you
> > > talking about? Order in the court!!" So I assume she didn't coin it.
> > >
> > > JL
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Baker, John <JMB at stradley.com> wrote:
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> > > >        No, it's a neologism.  I don't immediately see any other
> > > > examples of its use at all, although I suspect that a more diligent
> > > > search would turn up a handful.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John Baker
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Of Jonathan Lighter
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:04 AM
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> > > > Subject: consect
> > > >
> > > > Not in OED.
> > > >
> > > > The tot-mom jurors (who weren't afraid to put two and two together
> > and
> > > > get
> > > > two) convicted Tot Mom on four counts of lying to investigators.
> > > >
> > > > This morning Chief Judge Belvin Perry, Jr., decided to "consect" the
> > > > four-year sentences - make them run consecutively rather than
> > > > concurrently.
> > > >
> > > > I assume this is a well-known legal term.
> > > >
> > > > JL
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