Prehistory of Term "Tin Pan Alley"

[Dan Goncharoff]

So they weren't, in fact, housed there?
DanG



On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
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> I meant the district of New York where the song writers and publishers worked.
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> (the district of New York housing many song writers and song publishers)
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> Were song writers and publishers living in Tin Pan Alley, or just working there?
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> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
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>> Barry Popik has antedated the OED's first use of "Tin Pan Alley" (the district of New York housing many song writers and song publishers) by five years, back to 1903.  In  searching America's Historical Newspapers, I find that "Tin Pan Alley" was used to refer to a raucous street in New Haven, with no musical connotation, in five articles in the New Haven Evening Register in 1890 (also in an 1892 article and an 1894 article in the same newspaper).  The earliest citation is as follows:
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>> 1890 _New Haven Evening Register_ 8 Aug. 4 (America's Historical Newspapers)  There was a rumpus among a number of women in Tin Pan alley on Wednesday and the result was that Mrs. Eleanor Church and Mrs. Mamie Arthur were before the city court this morning charged with a breach of the peace on each other.  Tin Pan alley branches off from Wallace Street and is, so a witness told Judge Pickett this morning, the worst place in town.
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>> I hypothesize that "Tin Pan Alley" was used originally to refer to any noisy street (from the sound of beating a tin pan) and the usage eventually morphed into a specific reference to the noisy piano-clanging district of New York.
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