If you can't beat them join them (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Garson O'Toole]

Bill: The Puck citation is excellent. I also located it and posted it
to the list recently (May 26). The post includes a bonus cite for "If
we can't beat 'em, we must cheat 'em"

http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ADS-L;41afbe78.1105D

Thanks to Stephen for excellent cite for the earlier close variant
"beat the enemy".
Garson

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu> wrote:
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> Kansas City journal., June 13, 1897, Page 7, Image 7 col. 5
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> http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86063615/1897-06-13/ed-1/seq-7/;words=beat+join+can%27t?date1=1860&rows=20&searchType=advanced&proxdistance=5&date2=1902&ortext=&proxtext=can%27t+beat+join&phrasetext=&andtext=&dateFilterType=yearRange&index=1
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> A well known Democratic politician who is now dead used to say: "If you can't beat the enemy, join them"
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> Stephen Goranson
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> Fred Shapiro's Freakonomics blog discusses the subject phrase here:
> http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/05/26/if-you-cant-beat-them-join-them/
> and takes it back to 13 Feb 1902.
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> _Puck_ 7/10/1901 vol 49 no. 1271 (6th unnum page of this issue) Google
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> " "That will, and does, exceedingly well for publication," replied the
> Successful Veteran, "but for private consumption, 'If you can't beat
> 'em, join 'em,' will always prove a great deal more lucrative." "
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