Non-abusive tot moms

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jun 16 14:54:00 UTC 2011


Yeah, I went out on a limb with "assonance" on "baby daddy," but I was
thinking of both the a's and the -y's. Both "tot mom" and "baby daddy" are
rhythmically reduplicative as well.

"Language becomes more memorable as it approaches the condition of music."

(The bogus quotation marks are meant to imply that somebody smarter than I
am made this observation, which automatically makes it seem more likely to
be true.)

JL

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:

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> At 8:12 AM -0600 6/16/11, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >But, more important, *why* do they sound cool?
> >
> >There's the assonance, natch.
>
> Well, in "tot mom", if not "baby daddy" (orthograhic assonance?).
> Note that what tot moms grow up to be is "soccer moms", or in the
> Northeast "hockey moms", preserving the assonance if adding some
> mileage along the way.
>
> >Also, they're pithy. Too, they designate
> >concepts that are either novel ("tot mom" in its original denotation) or
> >clumsily paraphrased ("baby daddy").
>
> Right--we can't even agree on the definition in that case, IIRC (is
> Barack Obama technically Michelle's baby daddy or not at all?).  The
> connotation is easier to figure out than the denotation.
>
> LH
>
> >  Finally, they're just opaque enough to
> >be interesting, yet instantly comprehensible and memorable when
> understood.
> >
> >Many neo-tot moms may be less "fun" when they grow into "PTA moms."
> >
> >JL
> >
> >.
> >
> >On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Jonathan Lighter
> ><wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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> >>  'Cause _tot mom_  just sounds cool.
> >>
> >>  Like _baby daddy_.
> >>
> >>  JL
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> >>  On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at ameritech.net
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> >>  > The creator of the "Tot Moms" blog, begun in April 2011, goes beyond
> the
> >>  > straightforward "mother of a young child" meaning of "tot mom" to
> include
> >>  > other characteristics that you would not guess at just based on the
> words
> >>  > "tot" and "mom":
> >>  >
> >>  > "A tot mom is enthusiastic, committed, hard working, loving, fun, and
> >>  most
> >>  > of all, dedicated to their [sic] tots. Every mother featured has all
> the
> >>  > qualities of a tot mom."
> >>  > http://totmoms.wordpress.com/
> >>  >
> >>  > She seems to have no idea that opposite connotations might be
> creeping
> >>  into
> >>  > other people's conception of "tot mom" because of Casey Anthony and
> Nancy
> >>  > Grace, as discussed here in 2008 and this year (threads at
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>
> >>
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ADS-L;HcuHeA;200812291008240500E
> >>  > and
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ADS-L;8e2f13ec.1105D
> >>  ).
> >>  >
> >>  > Neal Whitman
> >>  > Email: nwhitman at ameritech.net
> >>  > Blog: http://literalminded.wordpress.com
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