"admitted allegation"?

[Dan Goncharoff]

Two thoughts about the language used:

Referring to "an admitted or established allegation" allows for the
possibility that there remain priests in active ministry with
as-yet-unproven allegations against them.

Even if there is a confession or evidence, should one call an act a crime
before any legal process occurs?

DanG

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:

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> At 3/9/2011 11:06 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
> >By confession or independent verification.
>
> Yes, I got the intent, but part of the usage grated.  Isn't it a
> *crime* that would be admitted (confessed), not an allegation?  "I
> confess to the allegation" or I confess to the alleged crime"? (On
> second reading, establishing / verifying an allegation now sounds OK to
> me.)
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> Joel
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> >On Mar 9, 2011 9:58 PM, "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > > Cardinal Justin Rigali of Philadelphia is quoted as having said, in
> > > response to the grand jury report, that  ' there were no priests in
> > > active ministry "who have an admitted or established allegation of
> > > sexual abuse of a minor against them." '
> > >
> > > NYTimes, March 9, "Philadelphia Cardinal Suspending 21 Priests", by
> > > Catharaine Q. Seelye.
> > >
> > > How does an "allegation" become "admitted"?  Or "established"?
> > >
> > > Joel
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