Even Further Antedating of "Hot Dog"

[Jonathan Lighter]

A kid today using a funny word wouldn't make it to the last page.

But a word using a kid would be positively pomo.

JL

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:

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> At 7:55 AM -0400 5/3/11, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >Notable that the reporter thought the order "startling" and newsworthy;
> also
> >that this earliest-thus-far ex. shows both current senses: the frankfurter
> >on the roll and the frankfurter itself.
> >
> >JL
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> And also the scare quotes (almost) throughout--the only non-quoted
> case being internal to the direct quote from the young
> lad--indicating that the reporter took all these to be (relatively)
> innovative uses.
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> LH
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> >On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu
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> >>  I believe Barry Popik, as part of his magnificent researches into the
> >>  history of food terms, has traced the term "hot dog" as far back as
> >>  September 1893.  I previously found a May 1893 citation from a New
> >>  Brunswick, New Jersey newspaper.  Here is an 1892 citation, also from a
> New
> >>  Jersey newspaper:
> >>
> >>  Somehow or other a frankfurter and a roll seem to go right to the spot
> >>  where the void is felt the most.  The small boy has got on such
> familiar
> >>  terms with this sort of lunch that he now refers to it as "hot dog."
>  "Hey,
> >>  Mister, give me a hot dog quick," was the startling order that a
> >>  rosy-cheeked gamin hurled at the man as a Press reporter stood close by
> last
> >>  night.  The "hot dog" was quickly inserted in a gash in a roll, a dash
> of
> >>  mustard also splashed on to the "dog" with a piece of flat whittled
> stick,
> >>  and the order was fulfilled.
> >>
> >>  Paterson (N.J.) Daily Press, Dec. 31, 1892, page 5, column 2 (Google
> News)
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> >>
> >>  Fred Shapiro
> >>  Editor
> >>  Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press)
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