"You want punched out?"

Neal Whitman nwhitman at AMERITECH.NET
Wed May 25 20:21:26 UTC 2011

Dan Brassil presented a paper on this at LSA2010, not a dialectological analysis, but a theoretical syntax/semantics one. I blogged about it here:


On May 25, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at BABEL.LING.UPENN.EDU> wrote:

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> Thanks, Matt. I've just posted about this on Language Log, citing your
> suggested readings at the end.
> http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3161
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Gordon, Matthew J.
> <GordonMJ at missouri.edu> wrote:
>> Discussion of American dialects on ADS-L? The end times are nigh!
>> The 'want + past part." is normally treated as one of the features of Midland grammar
>> along with "need + past part." and positive anymore. In addition to the AS article Ben
>> found, there's a survey of work in Murray and Simon's chapter in the collection they
>> edited _Language Variation and Change in the American Midland_ (2006, J. Benjamins).
>> Erica Benson discusses the probably related grammatical construction of 'want + prep.
>> adverb' (e.g. we want off) in a Journal of English Linguistics piece from 2009. This
>> usage is reported to be more acceptable in the northern dialect region.
>> -Matt Gordon

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