Bill Klem Quote
Dan Goncharoff
thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Thu May 26 15:50:51 UTC 2011
In GB:
Munsey's magazine, Volume 67
covers June to September 1919
http://books.google.com/books?id=b6HNAAAAMAAJ&dq=%22I%20call%20'em%20as%20I%20see%20'em%22&pg=PP7#v=onepage&q=%22I%20call%20'em%20as%20I%20see%20'em%22&f=false
has a short story by Jim Egan, "Safe or Out", that includes the phrase
"I call 'em as I see 'em" on page 498.
DanG
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
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> You're right, Jon. I should actually read posts before I respond to them.
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> The quote I was thinking of was "It ain't nothing till I call it." The quote Jon was posting about, "I calls 'em as I sees 'em," seems not to be included in Paul Dickson's Baseball's Greatest Quotations, although Dickson has a section of front matter titled "I Call 'Em As I See 'Em."
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> In addition to finding earlier evidence than 1948 for "It ain't nothing till I call it," perhaps Garson or Sam or Bill or Stephen or Ben or someone else can find early evidence for "I call 'em as I see 'em." The earliest version I find in a quick ProQuest search is 1933 in the Boston Globe, where Klem is quoted denying that he called them as he saw them.
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> Fred Shapiro
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> Actually it isn't, Fred. At least not on p.433, where there is a different
> quote from Klem.
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> Do I have an obsolete edition?
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> JL
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> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>wrote:
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> > Note that this famous quote is in The Yale Book of Quotations, under Bill
> > Klem's name, although the earliest attribution I found (1948) is to a
> > different umpire, Charlie Moran. Perhaps Garson or Bill or Sam or Stephen
> > or Ben or someone else can find it earlier than 1948.
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> > Fred Shapiro
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> > Jonathan Lighter [wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM]
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> > I calls 'em as I sees 'em.
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> > (PS: This famous quote, from an anecdote told by baseball umpire Bill Klem,
> > is absent from YBQ despite a whopping 2,000,000 raw Gogglits. GB takes it
> > back to 1929.)
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> > JL
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> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Amy West <medievalist at w-sts.com> wrote:
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> > > On 5/26/11 12:03 AM, Automatic digest processor wrote:
> > > > Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 16:19:46 +0100
> > > > From: Michael Quinion<wordseditor at WORLDWIDEWORDS.ORG>
> > > > Subject: Re: narrative
> > > >
> > > > Ron Butters wrote:
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> > > >> > "On the back foot" appears to be a mere slip of the tongue, a blend
> > > of
> > > >> > (?) "on the back burner" and "on the wrong foot" (though that
> > > >> > interpretation does not seem to lead to the reading that JL gives
> > > it).
> > > > It's not an error but a British English idiom from cricket. It comes
> > from
> > > > a batsman's being forced to put his weight on to his back foot, to take
> > > up
> > > > a defensive posture, because of the strength or accuracy of the bowler.
> > > As
> > > > an idiom it mean that a person has been forced into a defensive
> > position.
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> > > Thanks for doing our homework for us, Michael!
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