Bill Klem Quote

[Joel S. Berson]

The image of the cover says 1972, and that year appears on many pages
of the volume, including one (p. 214) which says "The Harvard
University Press published in 1972 a book ..."  (But it does back the
Moranian Hypothesis.)

Joel

At 5/27/2011 08:49 AM, victor steinbok wrote:
>I got a second proximate source to back up the Charlie Moran theory--Mass.
>Historical Society, supposedly from 1952.
>
>http://goo.gl/stmDG
>
>VS-)
>
>On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:44 AM, victor steinbok <aardvark66 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > I don't have an antedating of "It ain't nothin'..." quote, but I do have an
> > early alternative attribution.
> >
> > Several 1949 obits for umpire Charles B. "Uncle Charlie" Moran attribute
> > the line to him in this form: "It ain't nothing until I call it."
> >
> > http://goo.gl/WAh7Z
> >
> > Boston Daily Globe had a similar obit with a similar attribution (on the
> > same day).
> >
> > It's not a mere attribution--"he was noted for his famous expression".
> >
> > How quickly they forget!
> >
> > I don't see any reason to take this attribution lightly. The Klem stories
> > even differ on the kind of call that he supposedly made when barking that
> > line--was it a ball or a strike? was it fair or foul? was he on the
> > third-base line or at home plate?
> >
> > VS-)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Shapiro, Fred
> <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> You're right, Jon.  I should actually read posts before I respond to them.
> >>
> >> The quote I was thinking of was "It ain't nothing till I call it."  The
> >> quote Jon was posting about, "I calls 'em as I sees 'em," seems not to be
> >> included in Paul Dickson's Baseball's Greatest Quotations,
> although Dickson
> >> has a section of front matter titled "I Call 'Em As I See 'Em."
> >>
> >> In addition to finding earlier evidence than 1948 for "It ain't nothing
> >> till I call it," perhaps Garson or Sam or Bill or Stephen or Ben
> or someone
> >> else can find early evidence for "I call 'em as I see 'em."  The earliest
> >> version I find in a quick ProQuest search is 1933 in the Boston
> Globe, where
> >> Klem is quoted denying that he called them as he saw them.
> >>
> >> Fred Shapiro
> >>
> >
>
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