/s/ = /S/ in context of new name

[Jonathan Lighter]

>In Yoruba orthography, the <S> would  have a subscript vertical bar, representing the sound /S/.

Making it confusing for us non-Yoruba speakers, who lack subscripts.

JL

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Actually, Sade, with /S/, is the shortened form of the Yoruba name
> Folasade /fOlaSade/, glossed "take-honor-make-crown" or, in English,
> "honor confers a crown."  Since Helen Folasade Adu, OBE, is Yoruba,
> The Anglicized spelling retains the Yoruba pronunciation, except for
> the tones, which are Mid-High.  In Yoruba orthography, the <S> would
> have a subscript vertical bar, representing the sound /S/.
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> Herb
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> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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>> On Nov 7, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
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>>> You mean, just like the most popular female British singer of all time?
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>>> DanG
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>> Indeed, it would be much tougher now to name a baby "Sade" and have it pronounced in the manner of the Marquis, the way we could in the good old days.
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>> LH
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>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>>> http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/conrad-murrays-girlfriends-testify-sade-anding-nicole-alvarez/story?id=146581
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>>>> One of Dr. Murray's friends, "Sade Anding," pronounces her given name
>>>> as / Sa 'dei / (i.e., Sha-DAY).
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>>>> According to CNN.
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>>>> JL
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