"fish" (was Re: "moist")

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Tue Nov 8 17:16:50 UTC 2011


"Pat" because confidently advanced on the basis of inutuition alone,
"neo-Freudian" because stemming from a time when simple, sex-related
explanations were held to account for just about everything, up to and
including the nuclear arms race and the desire to land a man on the
moon.

Is there a shred of evidence, aside from the occasional post facto
assertion by people who don't know the coiner(s),  that "fish" alludes
to a generically bad smell? And if everybody is equally smelly, why
should "fish" come to designate a woman specifically?

JL

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> I may be misremembering, but I recall someone alluding to a Japanese pejorative referring to Westerners as essentially 'those that smell of meat (-breath)'.
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> LH
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> On Nov 8, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Victor Steinbok wrote:
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>> Whom are you calling bacon-breath?
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>>    VS-)
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>> On 11/8/2011 9:27 AM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>>> Or, from the venerable HDAS, "fish-eater" for 'Roman Catholic'. (Were
>>> Jews ever known as "pork-noneaters"?)
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