consider, v.i.

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Nov 10 12:58:49 UTC 2011


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JL

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Jesse Sheidlower <jester at panix.com> wrote:
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> Yes it is; it's under _considering_ prep. sense 3, "_ellipt. Considering
> the circumstances; taking everything into account: used _adv._
> (_colloq._)," with quotes from Richardson's _Pamela_ onwards.
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> We'll put it in a more sensible place after revision.
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> Jesse Sheidlower
> OED
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> On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 02:52:21PM -0500, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>> Which isn't in OED either.
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>> JL
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>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > Fells like a twist on considering:
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>> > "A pretty good day, considering."
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>> > DanG
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>> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> >> OED 5a ("to think deliberately, bethink oneself, reflect") needs a
>> >> tweak to cover the rather recent nuance exemplified in a current TV
>> >> commercial.
>> >>
>> >> "A pretty good day - when you consider!"  (Viz., consider that you
>> >> narrowly avoided killing yourself.)
>> >>
>> >> I'd add the whole phrase: "_when you consider_, colloq. when you
>> >> reflect on other possible outcomes."
>> >>
>> >> Undoubtedly a truncation of "when you consider it."
>> >>
>> >> It seems impossible to Google the intransitive phrase successfully:
>> >> exx. with complementary phrases seem unfilterable.
>> >>
>> >> I'd be surprised if it's more than fifty or sixty years old, at least in
>> >> print.
>> >>
>> >> JL
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