hocking loogies

[Jonathan Lighter]

HDAS has "loogie" from 1988 (though the initial spelling is, oddly, "luggie").

"Hawk" and "hock" seem to alternate. I notice a 1977 ex. of "hock"  in
the sense of "hawk," or advertise.

HDAS Vols. I & II, the only vols. yet permitted by fate, funding, and
publishing vagaries to appear, should be available at finer libraries
everywhere.

JL

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> In my day it was "hawking" not "hocking", which is probably an awe-droppers version of the word "hawking"(just like "tock" for talk")  And I think it was "lungers" not loogies.
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> Interestingly, the "awe" sound in "hawking" is onomatopoeia because it sounds like the sound one makes drawing up the mucus.  Awe-dropper's "hocking" loses that connection.
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> Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
> See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk
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>> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:44:22 -0700
>> From: gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM
>> Subject: Re: hocking loogies
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>> Dave Wilton's link =
>> (http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/site/comments/hawk_a_loogie/) and =
>> OED 3 discuss clearing the throat.
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>> As a kid, I was always amazed by the kids that could hock properly--I =
>> never could. But it seemed to me it is a gathering of the mucous in the =
>> nasal passage, not the throat, and specifically, the collection of a =
>> booger accompanied with snot.
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>> Also, I don't see "hock" or "loogie" or other variants in the OED. =
>> (Actually, my first attempt to find this word was as hurk, but Google =
>> corrected me and elementary school is too distant for me to try to fight =
>> it.)
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>> Benjamin Barrett
>> Seattle, WA
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>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Charles C Doyle wrote:
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>> >=20
>> > Those of us who still pronounce "open o's" recognize that the =
>> customary spelling of the gerund is "hawking," which corresponds with =
>> OED's "hawk" v.3.
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>> > --Charlie
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>> > I don't see this in the OED. Is there another way to express the =
>> action of gathering in the nose the mucus required to make a solid mass, =
>> surrounded by liquid, in preparation for spitting?
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>> > The Columnist Manifesto wonders whether it makes sense to have a =
>> standardized spelling for this =
>> (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=3Dcache:FgAD879HGuQJ:theco=
>> lumnistmanifesto.blogspot.com/2005/07/how-do-you-spell-loogie.html+%22hock=
>> +a+loogie%22&cd=3D4&hl=3Den&ct=3Dclnk&gl=3Dus).
>> >=20
>> > Benjamin Barrett
>> > Seattle, WA
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