hobo synonymous with panhandler or beggar
Jonathan Lighter
wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Apr 1 20:24:52 UTC 2012
John is right about the connotations of "migrant worker," especially since
_The Grapes of Wrath_.
A hobo, however, was usually an itinerant or migratory worker rather than
a sponger of some sort. The hobo's most salient characteristic was probably
that he generally traveled by hopping Western freights.
The tramp was a more local character, and the bum or loafer more local
still.
JL
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Baker, John <JBAKER at stradley.com> wrote:
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> "Migrant worker" and "hobo" have very different associations in my
> mind. I think of "migrant workers" as people who travel seasonally for
> agricultural work. They may have families and vehicles. They are often,
> but not always, immigrants. I think of "hoboes" as men (or older boys) who
> travel from place to place, perhaps hopping freight trains or hitch-hiking,
> and support themselves by whatever work is available (not necessarily
> agricultural work) or by handouts. Hoboes do not have vehicles or families
> (at least not families who travel with them), but there is a large element
> of choice in their lifestyle, and they may subsequently settle down and
> become respectable. This usage is essentially historical; hoboes were on
> their way out when "King of the Road" was written in 1964.
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> John Baker
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> As I leraned it, the hobo was the migratory worker, the tramp the migratory
> nonworker.
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> BTW, "migrant worker" has long been preferred. Birds are migratory, so
> "migratory" must show disrespect. (Birds can also be "migrants," but
> perhaps the public is less conscious of that.)
> OED has "migratory laborer" from 1911, "migrant worker" amusingly only from
> 1999.
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> JL
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