defend = 'defend against'

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Dec 13 17:12:17 UTC 2012


OK, but what does "iconically" mean?

"Recognizably"? "Typically"? "Commonly"? "As one would expect"? "Visually
on a page"? (Obviously I doubt the last.)

JL

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:

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> On Dec 13, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > Brevity for sure.  But I'm a bit behind the times. What does "iconically"
> > mean in this context?
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> > JL
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> The closer the connection in form, the closer the connection in reality.
>  This is a standard take in certain varieties of cognitive linguistic
> analyses, especially in the work of John Haiman.
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> LH
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> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Arnold Zwicky <zwicky at stanford.edu>
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> >> On Dec 13, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
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> >>> It may have something to do with people wanting to avoid prepositions
> >>> whenever they can. But why? To conserve planetary oxygen? Just a
> >> tentative
> >>> SWAG.
> >>
> >> i've posted a number of times on "transitivizing P-deletion", a
> syntactic
> >> development that potentially serves two purposes: (a) brevity; (b)
> >> indicating, iconically, a tighter sematic/pragmatic bond between verb
> and
> >> object than the P-marked variant does.
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