"cheeseburger slider"

[Jonathan Lighter]

The "cheeseburger slider" includes a bun and lettuce, onion, and tomato.

We've discussed "sliders" and "rollers" before.

However the nuances have developed over the decades regarding size,
quality, trimmings, grease content, brand name, etc., it appears that a
"slider" was originally a run-of-the-mill hamburger, just as a "roller' was
a comparable hot dog.

Anything beyond that appears to be a projection of the consumer.

What little evidence there is suggests USN currency as primary, parhaps as
early as the 1960s, though an inspired short-order cook anywhere could have
been the inglorious Milton in this case..

JL


On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:

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> To me, calling something a "burger" requires a "bun", which I think is the
> domed bread, as well as a patty-like thing in the bun. A chicken cutlet in
> a hamburger bun is not a chicken burger, unless the chicken cutlet is cut
> to approximate patty size.
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> A hamburger patty eaten on slices of bread is not, to me, a "hamburger". I
> would call it a sandwich.
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> "Slider", however, is determined by the use of a miniature bun. So lobster
> meat on a normal bun is not a lobster burger, but lobster meat on a slider
> bun IS a lobster slider.
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> > On Dec 21, 2012, at 9:33 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at ATT.NET<javascript:;>>
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> > > At 12/21/2012 09:12 PM, Benjamin Barrett wrote:
> > >> The patty rule seems strong. Google Images shows that's what lobster
> > >> and uni burgers are.
> > >
> > > I'm leaning this way too.  A "burger" is something patt[i]ed.
> > >
> > > Thus if the lobster meat has been diced finely enough, it can be
> > > formed into and called a (lobster) burger.  If the lobster meat is
> > > more chunky, then it is merely placed into a "lobster roll.".
> > >
> > > Similarly with salmon and crab -- that which I sometimes eat as
> > > "cakes" on a plate could serve equally well when pattied into a bun
> > > and called a burger.
> > >
> > >> By round top, I mean both in the sense of dome-shaped and circular.
> > >> I bet both can be considered as contributing factors for burgerness.
> > >
> > > Isn't it the roundness of the content that signifies a burger, rather
> > > than the domeness of the bun?
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> > Indeed, as a kid, most of the hamburgers I had were on sandwich bread.
> >
> > Also, Wendy's has square patties, but I think that's a mere deviation,
> > like a three-legged dog.
> >
> > Benjamin Barrett
> > Seattle, WA
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